On Fri, 5 May 2006, Harry Vennik wrote:

> > [OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences
> >     This is something only set once.  From usability point of view 
> > it's even wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close 
> > button is used as this should do the same as the "close" entry in the 
> > main menu.  Though, this is an often requested feature, so it should 
> > be kept, and it's place is in the preferences window.
> 
> I do not agree 100% here, but I think you're close. The tray icon should 
> be regarded as a separate window. Pressing the close button or close in 
> the main menu should both only close the window they're in, the main 
> window in this case. There should also be a 'Quit' or 'Exit' item 
> appended to the first menu that will terminate aMSN, and thus make the 
> trayicon disappear too.

No, no, please NOT. First, the average user won't see the difference 
between Close and Exit, I've never seen such a thing in any applications. 
Second AND most important: the close button with the X in the program's 
main window is there for quitting the program, for goodness' sake! Yes it 
is for closing the window they are in, but isn't this the same as the icon 
down right, or the window in the taskbar? Then why shouldn't the Close 
button just close it and keep it in the taskbar (ie, minimized)? It's like 
this in every program that I've seen, apart from some IMs which insist on 
laughing at you: "you want to close me? Haha, you can't, I want to stay 
open!". One of the reasons why I first loved aMSN is that it obeyed to the 
normal rule. Now that I saw that the HIG people think like this too, I'm 
even capable of placing a veto here. Really.



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