On Fri, 5 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: > oh yeah, and btw, the 'Close' button in official client's menu, it puts > it in the tray.. which is I think the best default behavior.. but..
WHAAAAAT? The official client has a lot of bloat and stupidities, do we have to copy it all? Come On............ Plus, aMSN's default behavior now is to close (just CLOSE), why change it? > still allow users to configure it as they want.. an additional 'Exit'.. > humm.. I'm skeptical.. I would say maybe, but if yes, only at the > condition of : > instead of having : > Close > Exit > have : > Minimize to tray > Exit Yes, sounds good :) > or something like that to make sure the diff between both... > > btw, while in the design, we should think, right now, and with the > experts help on the accelerators we should have!!! bindings are lame, > ctrl-s, ctrl-d, and ctrl-p are the only ones I know.. I just realized > that the official client reacts ALOT to what I type in it (typing in the > CL will filter contacts, same as a search...) so we should define Ctrl- > Ctrl-Alt- Alt- bindings to something... yeah, we have to make it more keyboard-friendly... > KKRT > > > On Fri, 05 May 2006 17:53:22 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >On Fri, 5 May 2006, Harry Vennik wrote: > > > > > > [OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences > > > > This is something only set once. From usability point of view > > > > it's even wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close > > > > button is used as this should do the same as the "close" entry in the > > > > main menu. Though, this is an often requested feature, so it should > > > > be kept, and it's place is in the preferences window. > > > > > >I do not agree 100% here, but I think you're close. The tray icon should > > >be regarded as a separate window. Pressing the close button or close in > > >the main menu should both only close the window they're in, the main > > >window in this case. There should also be a 'Quit' or 'Exit' item > > >appended to the first menu that will terminate aMSN, and thus make the > > >trayicon disappear too. > > > >No, no, please NOT. First, the average user won't see the difference > >between Close and Exit, I've never seen such a thing in any applications. > >Second AND most important: the close button with the X in the program's > >main window is there for quitting the program, for goodness' sake! Yes it > >is for closing the window they are in, but isn't this the same as the icon > >down right, or the window in the taskbar? Then why shouldn't the Close > >button just close it and keep it in the taskbar (ie, minimized)? It's like > >this in every program that I've seen, apart from some IMs which insist on > >laughing at you: "you want to close me? Haha, you can't, I want to stay > >open!". One of the reasons why I first loved aMSN is that it obeyed to the > >normal rule. Now that I saw that the HIG people think like this too, I'm > >even capable of placing a veto here. Really. > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > >_______________________________________________ > >Amsn-devel mailing list > >[email protected] > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel > > > > -- > KaKaRoTo > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Amsn-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel > --- "Where is the life that we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom that we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge that we have lost in information?" OEO; ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Amsn-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
