On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 06:34:07PM -0500, Mark Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jim Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you do not have a focused, targeted audience with a clear idea of
> how you are going to promote your app to that audience, you should not
> have bothered writing the app in the first place, unless writing Java
> code is your idea of a fun evening.

If you do not have the budget for doing said targetd advertising (my
interpretation), does that mean you're hosed from day one, and should
just quit trying?

>> Aside from that, though, you're right...if you don't have the advertising
>> budget, can't get it reviewed (I have *NO* idea what it takes to get that
>> done), and the new app announcement forums don't get you anywhere, your
>> apps will go unnoticed (like my more recent ones have) and, if it's a
>> paid app that you've spent a lot of time on, well, you probably wasted
>> that time.
> 
> I have been saying FOR YEARS that developers should not be focused on
> promoting apps via the Android Market, as it is merely a catalog.

Are you agreeing with me on the above?  Or did I somehow imply that I was
referring to promoting my app on the android market?  (I really don't
know how to read that.)

> I have been saying FOR YEARS that developers seeking income need the
> same sort of business plans as do any other entrepreneurs, and that
> paid apps are merely one (lousy, overused, etc.) business model out of
> many.

I'm just an out of work (permanently, thanks to cancer #1) network
engineer / intelligence systems analyst who doesn't have the first
hint of business education just trying to supplement my disability
income.  Is that wrong?

> >?Yeah, it sucks...massively.
> 
> No more than does opening a dry cleaners or a Quik-E-Mart.

Except for one thing:  at least the dry cleaners or quick rip are
visible.  People walking or driving down the street can actually SEE
them without having to search for them.  Or was that point lost
somewhere?

> Or do you think that app developers are somehow immune to the real
> world that affects entrepreneurs in all other lines of business?

Please point out where I said that.  Seriously.  Point it out.

>> And from what I've heard, that was the intention behind google's doing
>> that---to limit the Market to the major devs (no indies) with massive
>> budgets.
> 
> Citation, please.

Make that plural...and I don't have any.  It's just what I've been
reading a lot (not so much in this forum, though) since before
"Just In" went away, and more after it vanished.  But if you think
I kept a record of every list/forum and every specific conversation
where I heard that, well, sorry to disappoint you...I didn't.

As to whether or not that really IS googles intention or just a common
perception is irrelevant, IMHO, as the impact is the same---if your app
doesn't immediately get a LOT of downloads, it vanishes, whereas before,
it at least had a reasonable period of being visible in its own section
of the market (set aside for new apps).  Granted, that section was
misused...but it's the MISUSE that should have been done away with, not
the whole section...again, IMHO.  One of my apps, posted shortly after
the change, was visible for an hour or so...until the market refreshed,
and then it was gone...no longer visible unless you searched for it.
How is this supposed to be a good thing?  Before, people (again, based
on comments I've read over and over) actually strolled throuhg "Just In"
looking for new stuff.  I know I did (past tense, of course).

So, one final question:  where do users go NOW to see ALL (not just the
"Top" of the latest---and maybe/maybe not the greatest) new apps on the
market?  Hmmm?  Where?  What are the search keywords for that?  (And yes,
I am expecting an actual answer to that.)

Later,
   --jim

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