Once again, Google is a for-profit, publicly listed business, not a
charity.

Why should they spend the time and effort to help out small developers
over big ones?

Yes, the old "New" section is sorely missed, but I am sure if the new
"Top new" must be more profitable for Google.   You have to realize
that Google has some of the world's smartest people working for them,
and a decision like that is not taken blindly.



On Feb 14, 9:10 am, Jim Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 06:34:07PM -0500, Mark Murphy wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jim Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If you do not have a focused, targeted audience with a clear idea of
> > how you are going to promote your app to that audience, you should not
> > have bothered writing the app in the first place, unless writing Java
> > code is your idea of a fun evening.
>
> If you do not have the budget for doing said targetd advertising (my
> interpretation), does that mean you're hosed from day one, and should
> just quit trying?
>
> >> Aside from that, though, you're right...if you don't have the advertising
> >> budget, can't get it reviewed (I have *NO* idea what it takes to get that
> >> done), and the new app announcement forums don't get you anywhere, your
> >> apps will go unnoticed (like my more recent ones have) and, if it's a
> >> paid app that you've spent a lot of time on, well, you probably wasted
> >> that time.
>
> > I have been saying FOR YEARS that developers should not be focused on
> > promoting apps via the Android Market, as it is merely a catalog.
>
> Are you agreeing with me on the above?  Or did I somehow imply that I was
> referring to promoting my app on the android market?  (I really don't
> know how to read that.)
>
> > I have been saying FOR YEARS that developers seeking income need the
> > same sort of business plans as do any other entrepreneurs, and that
> > paid apps are merely one (lousy, overused, etc.) business model out of
> > many.
>
> I'm just an out of work (permanently, thanks to cancer #1) network
> engineer / intelligence systems analyst who doesn't have the first
> hint of business education just trying to supplement my disability
> income.  Is that wrong?
>
> > >?Yeah, it sucks...massively.
>
> > No more than does opening a dry cleaners or a Quik-E-Mart.
>
> Except for one thing:  at least the dry cleaners or quick rip are
> visible.  People walking or driving down the street can actually SEE
> them without having to search for them.  Or was that point lost
> somewhere?
>
> > Or do you think that app developers are somehow immune to the real
> > world that affects entrepreneurs in all other lines of business?
>
> Please point out where I said that.  Seriously.  Point it out.
>
> >> And from what I've heard, that was the intention behind google's doing
> >> that---to limit the Market to the major devs (no indies) with massive
> >> budgets.
>
> > Citation, please.
>
> Make that plural...and I don't have any.  It's just what I've been
> reading a lot (not so much in this forum, though) since before
> "Just In" went away, and more after it vanished.  But if you think
> I kept a record of every list/forum and every specific conversation
> where I heard that, well, sorry to disappoint you...I didn't.
>
> As to whether or not that really IS googles intention or just a common
> perception is irrelevant, IMHO, as the impact is the same---if your app
> doesn't immediately get a LOT of downloads, it vanishes, whereas before,
> it at least had a reasonable period of being visible in its own section
> of the market (set aside for new apps).  Granted, that section was
> misused...but it's the MISUSE that should have been done away with, not
> the whole section...again, IMHO.  One of my apps, posted shortly after
> the change, was visible for an hour or so...until the market refreshed,
> and then it was gone...no longer visible unless you searched for it.
> How is this supposed to be a good thing?  Before, people (again, based
> on comments I've read over and over) actually strolled throuhg "Just In"
> looking for new stuff.  I know I did (past tense, of course).
>
> So, one final question:  where do users go NOW to see ALL (not just the
> "Top" of the latest---and maybe/maybe not the greatest) new apps on the
> market?  Hmmm?  Where?  What are the search keywords for that?  (And yes,
> I am expecting an actual answer to that.)
>
> Later,
>    --jim
>
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