I assume people have looked at draft-pritikin-coap-bootstrap.
I don't see any discrepancy between that and Eliot's message.

   Brian
On 04/08/2016 04:33, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Joel M. Halpern <j...@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
>     > As I understqnd it, low power devices are usually viewed as having 
> limited
>     > capabilities.
>     > Thus, I would normally expect to see their autonomic functions handled
>     > by a
>     > proxy, much as a COAP gateway provides connectivity to the rest of the
>     > Internet for such devices.
> 
>     > If that is the case, then I would not expect to run GRASP or ANIMA
>     > bootstrap on the low end devices, but rather on the proxy.
> 
> The goal is not to run GRASP or ACP on the low-end devices (the lightbulbs),
> but rather to be able to use common infrastructure for bootstrapping.
> 
>     > What am I missing?
> 
> It's not about running GRASP over an ACP between lightbulbs, it's about
> enrollment/bootstrap.   It might be about running GRASP over an ACP
> between lighting controllers, and that may well involve the proxies you
> mention.
> 
> (It's also worth making a comparison to what we consider "limited
> capabilities" to what we had as control plane CPUs 20 years years ago)
> 
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
> 
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