I've since tried 64-bit & 32-bit JVM paths - no luck
I've tried adding all involved paths to the windows PATH statement - no luck
I've tried adding an LD_LIBRARY_PATH env-var with all the library paths -
no luck
I've tried copying all the libraries/jars into the \AREmail directory - no
luck
I've tried running the service as a variety of users from local to domain
admin - no luck
I've compared the service registry entries to a known good working system -
can't spot a difference other than server names and paths

The command-line email engine runs just fine with a different set of
libraries in the **same paths** (I've compared these to a known-good system
and it's normal) and it runs as the currently logged-in local admin
account.

The service, set to run as the same local admin account, fails to start-up
enough to write to a log. If the windows event log is to be trusted, it
seems to indicate the JVM didn't start because it couldn't find a file in
the LoadLibrary statement.

I am well and truly stumped!

At this point, I'm wondering about the differences between running as a
service vs command line and if some group-policy or other security setting
is causing the issue. If I ever stumble across the resolution, I'll post it.

Thanks for the suggestions,
-JDHood



On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Thad Esser <thad.es...@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
> Yeah, I was really happy when I found that tool suite.  Process Explorer
> is nice (similar to "top") and TCPView (netstat) too.
>
> Thad
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM, John Sundberg <
> john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Great tool Thad…
>>
>> I used to use something like that in the Linux world all the time -- you
>> would see a program try to read a file -- then die right after that -- but
>> never give a good message.
>>
>> Then -- you would change the permissions - so it could see the file -
>> then bingo - it works.
>>
>> I did not know such a Window util existed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Thad Esser <thad.es...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> I used the Sysinternals "Process Monitor" (
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645) utility to
>>> watch what was happening during the service startup.  That let me see that
>>> it was searching for a particular file (mscvr100.dll)  in a bunch of
>>> folders.  It just so happened that the list of folders was the exact same
>>> list in the "Path" environment variable, in the same order.  That *.dll is
>>> part of the java install and is located in the bin folder.  Adding the bin
>>> folder to the Path was really all it was.  At any rate, it sounds like you
>>> are up against something different, so I wanted to suggest taking a look at
>>> Process Monitor to see if that helped.
>>>
>>> Thad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM, JD Hood <hood...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>> I'll check it again, but I've gone through all the (even semi-related)
>>>> KB entries. I loaded the path up with the java \bin, \lib and \aremail
>>>> paths for good measure as one of my troubleshooting steps, checked
>>>> permissions, re-installed java, removed & re-added the service, used
>>>> several different users and service accounts, and on and on.  As soon as I
>>>> regain connectivity, I'm going to try setting the LD_LIBRARY_PATH manually
>>>> and see if that does the trick.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -JDHood
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Thad Esser <thad.es...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>> JD,
>>>>>
>>>>> I had this exact same issue, you'll probably find that flashboards
>>>>> isn't starting up either.  The issue was that the java bin directory was
>>>>> not added to the PATH environment variable.  BMC Support insisted that the
>>>>> java install would do that, but it didn't happen in any of my 
>>>>> environments.
>>>>>  Once I added that to the PATH variable, all was good.  The reason that it
>>>>> works from the command line is that the batch file sets the path.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>> Thad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM, JD Hood <hood...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Environment: v8.1 ARS/ITSM on Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone encountered a situation where outbound email is configured
>>>>>> for simple, unassuming, plain-jane SMTP (no user or pass needed) and the
>>>>>> email service (installed out of the box) will not start?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried setting the service to run as a domain user account
>>>>>> (permissioned for MAPI), a local admin account and as a domain admin
>>>>>> account. It still won't start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The weird part: I can switch to command line mode and it works just
>>>>>> fine with the same outbound settings. From the command line, it 
>>>>>> starts-up,
>>>>>> stays-up and happily processes mail until you stop it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Logging:
>>>>>> No email logs or java logs are produced when you try to start the
>>>>>> service. I don't think it gets far enough to even start a log.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows event Application logs shows three events with the following
>>>>>> info:
>>>>>> 1. BMC Remedy Email Engine - MyServerName
>>>>>> 2. Could not load the Java Virtual Machine
>>>>>> 3. LoadLibrary The system cannot find the file specified
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've checked the registry entries for the service and compared it to
>>>>>> the java paths used with the command line batch file and the paths are 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> correct, down to the jvm.dll for the service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, all I have to go on is that, for some unknown reason the
>>>>>> service can't start a JVM. However running it from the command line, it 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> crank the JVM right up!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm currently stumped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone has encountered this before, I'd love to hear how you
>>>>>> resolved it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -JDHood
>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *John Sundberg*
>> Kinetic Data, Inc.
>> "Your Business. Your Process."
>>
>> 651-556-0930 I john.sundb...@kineticdata.com
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