Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity.
However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based
on all of the names you provided last night.
As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I
came from that field before becoming a teacher.
First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before.
Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while
Karl Crudup was President. This "change" to BCBS came with the fact
that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are
definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12%
the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in
favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up
drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to
the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was
and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are
out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10%
fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000.
There is your 600K in savings minus 100K.
Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't
need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history,
only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point
out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another
school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback
with the 700K in commission?
Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they
left out some major details. I would have no problem switching
insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the
coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a
rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost
you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my
negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of
insurance under this so called "savings", would be impossible to
keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again.
Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance
being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the
correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I
really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he
should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does.
I hope this answers your questions. I think the "source" should
give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can
reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am
easily accessible, as you know who I am.
Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to
> join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We
should
> be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this
group.
> So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies? Some
> people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank
D.
> You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you
would
> have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20-30-
> 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and
Teachers
> not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from this
> group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just for the
> record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on.
>
>
> Who am I?
> Let's just say a family member is in your union.
>
>
>
>
> Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn
a
> > few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In
> > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey Johnny boy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a
good
> > > > thing I know most of these names.--- In
> > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <bluebishop82@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who
I
> am
> > > > > without me knowing who you are.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you
> > > brought
> > > > > up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older
> than
> > I
> > > > am.
> > > > > My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I
know
> a
> > > > > little something about your generation in AP, let's see if
I
> > can
> > > > > identify some of the people you are refering to below.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave.
> who
> > I
> > > > > think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is that
> who
> > > you
> > > > > mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older than
> you.
> > > > Other
> > > > > than that I don't know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ducky = Fornicola.
> > > > >
> > > > > Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember the
> > rest.
> > > > > Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and the
name
> > > > Johnny
> > > > > Cag. Could be a different guy though.
> > > > >
> > > > > T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son.
RIP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his
> younger
> > > > > brother Micheal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Butch B = Butch from the Pony?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me by
7
> > > years.
> > > > >
> > > > > The rest of your friends I might remember with more info.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was about
5
> or
> > 6
> > > > > when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If you
> > mean
> > > > 7th
> > > > > ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every
year
> > > > through
> > > > > my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at the
time.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention
hall.
> > > Jimmy
> > > > > Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I had
high
> > > > score
> > > > > on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on in
pin
> > ball
> > > > to
> > > > > this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was
owned
> > by
> > > > Joe
> > > > > Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters.
> > > > >
> > > > > So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can
check
> me
> > > out
> > > > > in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the "five
percenter"
> > > > > years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book on
> Holy
> > > > > Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10).
What
> > year
> > > > did
> > > > > you graduate APHS?
> > > > >
> > > > > On what street did you grow up?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <apoojo@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > > > > <bluebishop82@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <lighty@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the Baronet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back 10
more
> > > > years ,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > was the first and only theatre in the area to show
> > woodstock,
> > > > the
> > > > > > movie
> > > > > > > bb or should it be bs because none of us oldtimers
> > remember
> > > > you
> > > > > or
> > > > > > yourclaim to fame, mr asbury park,we grew up here
partied
> > here,
> > > > > dont
> > > > > > remember you,from the pool, the bdwalk the arcades etc.,
> > later
> > > > > > attended many council meetings, bd. meetings in the
80s ,
> > 90s,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > > dont remember you , you are a living legend in your mind
> > only,
> > > > you
> > > > > > have been present and vocal since you got your job, god
> > bless
> > > > you,
> > > > > > west side,drummond ave. wow thats stretching the true
> > > > definition
> > > > > > fron the 60s 70s
> > > > > > > oakdorf your sarcasim reminds me of that late great
> > comedian
> > > > > andy
> > > > > > devine, twang your magic twanger FROGGY, peace to all
but
> do
> > > not
> > > > > bull
> > > > > > shit someone whos been here longer than all of you, you
> > insult
> > > > > people
> > > > > > like myself, and others such as chico ducky joey p.
johnny
> > cag,
> > > > t
> > > > > > rozza, nicky al, the weathwerman, fat tommy , butch b. ,
> > lenny,
> > > > > frank
> > > > > > n.stein, the filiosas, the late d. lewis,spike musto, d.
> > > klinger
> > > > i
> > > > > > could go on for ever, get real guys do not talk about
the
> > past
> > > > > unless
> > > > > > you truly lived it which you did not stop wanting to be
> > > wannabes
> > > > > like
> > > > > > i said that was the past,i was fortunate enough to lived
> > thru
> > > it,
> > > > > > (thank god for h. bolger) lets go to the future and
work
> > > > together
> > > > > > for a better city, drop the false represntations the
egos
> > get
> > > > real
> > > > > or
> > > > > > continue buying postcards, your choice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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