jkeny wrote: 
> No more evidence or less evidence for or against than your speculation. 

And my "speculation" is that:

julf wrote: 
> some differences might be extremely small, and require a lot of training
> and concentration to pick out. 

What part of that do you think is speculation, and what part of that do
you disagree with?

> Huh? This is his statement, not mine!

That is why I used double quotes - to show that it was you quoting him.

> Do you not accept his ABX results?

As pointed out by a number of postings in that thread, there were a fair
number of uncontrolled parameters.

> What part of his statement do you think is too strong "-They do
> establish that when I say, "It sounds better to me", I am reporting a
> provable reality, not a placebo effect."?-

The words "provable" and "reality". One single, uncontrolled and
unverified test does not establish "provable reality". 

> I think we can conclude that anything but gross, obvious differences
> require training & concentration to pick out in an blind test.

i have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion/conjecture from the
thread you quoted.



"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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