here are some references

http://www.usna.edu/Users/polisci/purkitt/behavioraltraps.ppt
http://faculty.babson.edu/krollag/org_site/soc_psych/platt_soc_trap.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement#Superimposed_schedules


On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 'behavioral trap'?
>
> When I was unemployed, do you think it would have been better for me
> and my family to purchase more expensive goods from places that were
> not Wal-Mart?
>
> What you call a 'behavioral trap', I call common sense. If you do not
> have a whole lot of money to play with, you need to be frugal. The
> best place for me to do that around here is Wal-Mart.
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> and that in a nutshell is why so many manufacturing jobs are going offshore.
>>
>> Its a classic behavioral trap, the short term positive consequences
>> outweigh the long term negative ones.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> To be honest, in this economy, I don't give a shit.
>>>
>>> I, like a lot of people, need to get the most out of each and every
>>> dollar I spend. The best place for that, in my opinion, is Wal-Mart.
>>>
>>> When the economy turns around, and I am no longer afraid that it may
>>> effect my job, then I can go back to supporting local businesses,
>>> until then, I need to do what is best for my family.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> With Walmart however its not just the employees they like to screw
>>>> around, its the small and medium businesses that are the suppliers for
>>>> the company.
>>>>
>>>> What happens is that the contracts allow for a renegotiation every
>>>> year. Year 1 no problem, the supplier typically gives a reasonable
>>>> price which Walmart accepts. Year 2 Walmart comes back and tells the
>>>> supplier to knock 5% off the price. If not Walmart will go overseas to
>>>> a Chinese supplier who can meet that price. That's not so bad so the
>>>> supplier usually complies. Unfortunately Walmart then does it on year
>>>> 3 and 4. Quite rapidly the supplier finds that his margin has
>>>> disappeared and they either have to let the Walmart contract go (which
>>>> has its own problems) or they have to go overseas themselves to meet
>>>> the new price. In the end the supplier and the people working for that
>>>> supplier in the US lose out.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Sisk, Kris <ks...@gckschools.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Didn't you use that example last week and didn't Jerry shoot it down?
>>>>> They don't raise prices and they create as many new business as the
>>>>> ones they replace.
>>>>>
>>>>> I must've missed it. I missed a lot of the list last week. It was a busy
>>>>> week. I'll have to go hunt through the archives.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, WalMart, like most retail jobs pay around minimum wage and
>>>>> employee college kids, housewives and retirees. If you are working
>>>>> there as a career they do have management opportunities but not that
>>>>> many.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what they'd like. The truth of the matter is that an awful lot of
>>>>> people depend on full time Wal-Mart jobs to pay the bills. I know
>>>>> several of them and they make more than minimum wage (not that they're
>>>>> well paid by any stretch, but it's not minimum wage). Admittedly most of
>>>>> them are high school graduates or people who such useful majors as
>>>>> philosophy or, but that doesn't change the fact that they work full time
>>>>> at Wal-Mart. One in particular actually has a business degree but stays
>>>>> at Wal-Mart because she's getting by just fine (and, I think, is scared
>>>>> of change). The last several years Wal-Mart corporate has been bending
>>>>> over backwards to make their lives miserable because it costs them a
>>>>> hell of a lot less to fill the schedule with college kids, housewives,
>>>>> and retirees who don't qualify for full time benefits.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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