Ah, there are issues with the pipeline route too? I assumed the concerns were around the extraction process. Cause this is tar-sand oil, right?
Noted, then, though the main point I was trying to make was even if you don't believe the problem is some sort of attempt at responsible stewardship -- which I assume Sam does not -- then it is still unclear to me that there's a calculation over votes. A lot of voters could be swayed by the advertising a few oil industry donations could buy. Maybe more than the number of voters who would be won over by not allowing the pipeline, is what I am saying. Cynicism may be rampant in this day and age, but I am not sure that even the most amoral calculation would support blocking the pipeline for votes. If not, gasp, there may have been policy reasons in play. Who knows ;) On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Maureen <mamamaur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Basically a Canadian firm is trying to build a pipeline through what > some say are environmentally sensitive areas of the US without > compliance with the permitting process, and members of Congress set > what White House claims is an unreasonable deadline for the permit to > be issued that does not give enough time to determine if environmental > damage is possible. > > I have to wonder if the uproar would be the same if a Middle Eastern > country was trying to build a pipeline through the US heartland > without complying with current regulation, and the Obama > administration let them. Or how quickly the opposition would point > fingers if Obama allowed any pipeline without the environmental > review, and a pipeline accident happened on his watch. > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > job creation, lol. Don't wear the words out before the general election > ;) > > > > I am as cynical as the next person, but also willing to consider that > > perhaps the cost-benefit ratio had a part in the decision. I have not > > really researched the matter and won't have time to do so, but I have an > > open mind on the matter. Votes may have had something to do with it. Or > > not. I am not sure that the number of green votes outweighs the number > you > > can persuade using campaign contributions from the oil industry. > > > > And Pelosi...well. Apparently she is the new Clinton in the "your guys > did > > it too" game. Whatever. If she was/is corrupt, that is bad, and she > should > > be prosecuted. If Boehner is corrupt, as it would seem from the little I > > have read about this, then that is bad and he should be prosecuted. > > > > shrug > > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> > >> "I was just pointing out the corruption involved on the Republican > side." > >> > >> But why didn't you bring out the corruption of the > >> Democrats, particularly President Obama selling out job creation for > votes > >> from the green movement. It's okay to be balanced. > >> > >> > >> > >> "The speaker stands to make hundreds of thousands based solely on his > >> position. " > >> > >> I haven't done the research to know if this is true or not. Assuming it > >> is, which is not difficult considering it is dealing with politicians, > it > >> looks Boehner learned a few things from Nancy Pelosi when she was > speaker. > >> He needs to up his game if he wants to do as well as she did though. > >> > >> J > >> > >> - > >> > >> We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it. - Nancy > >> Pelosi > >> > >> > >> "The Government should not keep information confidential merely because > >> public officials might be embarrassed by disclosure, because errors and > >> failures might be revealed, or because of speculative or abstract > fears." - > >> Barrack Obama > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345544 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm