On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "specific evidence please. Not rhetoric like "selling out job creation for > votes from the green movement." > > Aside from common sense, what do you need?
Actual numbers instead of rhetoric would help. If its not there then obviously all people can conclude is that you may be making it up. > You think they made a document > and posted it on the net? Is there a recording somewhere? Please. Then how do we know you're not just telling a story for some obscure political end? > Sometimes, one has to connect the dots. However, if you do a google > search for "Obama pipeline Green movement", you can find plenty of stuff > about this (particularly on the Hill website). I will give you this tidbit > from one of the articles. Take it however you want: > > Sierra Club Executive Director Michael Brune recently said that approval of > the pipeline would hurt the groups ability to mobilize members on Obamas > behalf. > > He also warned that it would have a big impact on his groups allocation > of campaign resources between congressional races and the White House > contest. > > Again no numbers etc., just more "The Sky is Falling!!!" > > "Next you say you have not done the research. Its arguing from ignorance > rather from knowledge. If you have not done the research why the hell > should your comments have any validity. " > > I sure did say I have not researched the accusations and I said I had no > problem *believing* the accusations. As to my comments, the only validity > they have are the the same validity that *anyone* posting on some random > internet group has: none. So again all you are doing then is just repeating someone's lie. So by your argument, you're demonstrating what Asimov states: 'There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." ' - Issac Asimov > > > "For that matter why should anyone even respect those opinions if they are > based on self-admitted ignorance" > > They shouldn't. And they should not respect the opinons of the so called > "knowledgeable" without verification, especially sense so many of the > "knowledgeable" are ignorant, even with the facts. So you are admitting that you comments have no validity. End of story. > > > "Moreover just because someone from the political opposition has done > something similar in your perception (again opinion not fact so far), that > does not mean that a false equivalence is a legitimate argument." > > But is sure does bring the hypocrisy of other posters out, which is very > enjoyable. > In other words all is allowed, lies prevarications distortions just to make the other ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345661 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
