"Because it damn well treats people better than the botched abortion on toast that is the current system."
I don't want myths. I want NUMBERS. "Again if you cannot show any demonstrable evidence then you're just blowing it out your butt." Fine. I am blowing it out my butt. Just like that myth about "treats people better". "So then what is different than what Alinsky suggested for people to collectively get the same amount of impact as someone with an income of 20 million plus a year. What is wrong about that? Or do you think that we ought to be ruled by the rich?" We ARE ruled by the rich. And it's not so much Alinsky's goal as his tactics and ethics. "I do not know you. I do not care to. So frankly it is not your business one way or another." Fair enough. If I could though, I'd buy you a beer (if you drink beer, but you're probably the wine type). Seems like you need one. Anyway, I'll share a personal issue I have: I was told that if Obama wins this year, it will be my fault. Is that not a huge cross to bear? J - When a new generation arises and the democracy falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. And hence when by their foolish thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, democracy in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of force and violence. For the people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others, as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch. - Polybius ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345840 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm