You still haven't shown where it wasn't just a part of another nation. On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > As did Palestine...both idependantly as as a vassal state of several > different middle eastern empires. > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:57 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > India existed since the time of Alexander. > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > India was a much more complex case. While it was an integral part of > > > the empire, it was ruled by a Viceroy, directly under the crown. That > > > is very difference from the commonwealth who were run by > > > Governor-Generals, and local parliaments. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Eric Roberts > > > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > So was India... > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:40 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> They were a British protectorate under that mandate, not a nation > > state, > > > >> nice try though. > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons < > > larrycly...@gmail.com > > > >> >wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > durig the crusades it was its own kingdom. from 1918 through 1949 > it > > > >> > was an independent country ruled under a League of Nations > Mandate. > > > >> > > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > A subset of the roman empire yes? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > As in not an independent nation state? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > >> > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their > > > >> > diaspora...it > > > >> > >> wasn't a subset, but the entire area... > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > > >> > >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM > > > >> > >> To: cf-community > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border > > And > > > >> > Waiting > > > >> > >> For A Western Attack > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> When was it anything else but a subsection of another country? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> You know when? When it was Judea, that's when. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > >> > >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > How is that? There is documentation going back to the Roman > > > empire > > > >> > >> > calling he region Palestine... > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > >> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > > >> > >> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM > > > >> > >> > To: cf-community > > > >> > >> > Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern > Border > > > And > > > >> > >> > Waiting For A Western Attack > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > Agreed. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to use > > > >> > >> > overwhelming force against them. To the point of > capitulation. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > This won't work as a one nation solution though. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > Ok, look, I have spent years of my life in Muslim countries. > > Not > > > >> just > > > >> > >> > Afghanistan, but places like Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar, and > > > >> various > > > >> > >> > stans. > > > >> > >> > There are distinct cultural differences in many of these > > > countries, > > > >> > >> > but Islam is the one unifying force, the Umma. Islam is not > > > just a > > > >> > >> > religion, but a social and political system as well. It > > requires > > > >> > >> > total submission of the individual and the will, suspension > of > > > >> logic. > > > >> > >> > It was started by a merchant warlord who also happened to be > a > > > >> > >> > pedophile, who advocated the murder, rape and enslavement of > > > >> anyone > > > >> > >> > who didn't agree with his ideas. I have read of the Qur'an > and > > > the > > > >> > >> > Sunnah, and I know what they say. This so called religion of > > > peace > > > >> > >> > has been an evil bloody thorn in our side since before the > > > founding > > > >> of > > > >> > >> > our nation (Barbary wars?) and will continue to be so until > it > > is > > > >> > >> > stamped out. It is an ideology as evil, or even more so, as > > > that of > > > >> > >> > fascism or communism. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > You can lie, cheat and steal from the infidel, take them as > > > slaves, > > > >> > >> > sexually assault them, charge them fess to live among you. > > Free > > > >> > >> > speech and free will are totally alien concepts. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > I am not a man of strong religious convictions., a true > > > agnostic, I > > > >> > >> > have no idea what if anything is out there. To be honest I > > don't > > > >> > >> > understand anyone, no matter the religion, that claims to > have > > > >> > >> > knowledge of the "true faith". > > > >> > >> > Yet I see in Islam something worse then simple religion. > Maybe > > > >> there > > > >> > >> > can be a reformation, like with Christianity. I have my > doubts > > > >> where > > > >> > >> > that is concerned though. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > The minority of "moderate muslims", and I do know some, > refuse > > to > > > >> take > > > >> > >> > a stand against their brothers in most cases, because they > know > > > that > > > >> > >> > the extremists are correct in their readings, and that their > > > actions > > > >> > >> > are blessed by the religious establishments, and called for > by > > > their > > > >> > >> > guiding books. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > Islam (the word in Arabic) means submission. It's teachings > > and > > > >> > >> > principles follow from that starting pioint. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > It is more complex even, hell I know it ends the argument, > but > > > many > > > >> of > > > >> > >> > the current crop of issues we have can even be tied directly > to > > > the > > > >> > >> > Nazi's, the Baath parties were founded by men that modeled > them > > > >> > >> > directly on the NSDAP and they were supported politically and > > > >> > >> > financially by the Nazis. The "Palestinian Issue" was > further > > > >> > >> > inflamed by the Nazis (not to mention that no such country of > > > >> > Palestine > > > >> > >> ever existed but thats another argument). > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > I don't see many things as EVILT, but in Islam I find the > label > > > >> > fitting. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, LRS Scout < > > > lrssc...@gmail.com> > > > >> > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a > > tin > > > >> pot > > > >> > >> > > dictator > > > >> > >> > > > in power. They revolted and created their bat shit crazy > > > >> Islamic > > > >> > >> > > > republic. It should have and could have ended there. I > > > mean it > > > >> > >> > > > took us > > > >> > >> > > a > > > >> > >> > > > while to get ove the revolutionary war, but now we're the > > > best > > > >> of > > > >> > >> > > > friends with England. These guys just really don't know > > > when to > > > >> > >> > > > let > > > >> > >> > shit go. > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > After the embassy hostages were released when they were > so > > > >> scared > > > >> > >> > > > of > > > >> > >> > > Reagan > > > >> > >> > > > they could have reentered the world stage, but instead > went > > > >> into a > > > >> > >> > > > long protracted war with Iraq. > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Do I know bad decision were made by the CIA? Yes. That > > > doesn't > > > >> > >> > > > mean > > > >> > >> > > they > > > >> > >> > > > should be shipping weapons to Afghans decades later. > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > well that's the problem. Once you start fucking with > people, > > > >> there's > > > >> > >> > > no guarantee they are going to stop fucking with you > > > back...just > > > >> > >> > > because you ask them nicely or call "time out" > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349966 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
