In this person's defense, I noticed the username on his emails several
days ago on an entirely different topic.  I thought it was an amusing
coincidence, but it just may be his real name.  Either way, it's still
funny.  :-)

>>> "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/13/01 3:33:24 PM >>>
For that matter, look at the username on the email.  I didn't at 
first, and, frankly, if I had looked more closely, I wouldn't have 
responded.

Consider the following comments in the light that I just got off the 
phone with a settlement on my taxes, I am waist deep in a desktop 
conversion with several deadlines pending, and I have a sore throat.

To be honest, I hate to see product bashing on this list. I cringe 
when I see people starting out with "I have this bug in my production 
network."  My first reaction is "and what did the TAC say about it?"

If the response is "I don't have a support contract,"  my response is 
"then you deserve the problems you have."  It's one thing for someone 
not to buy support for a home lab, but anyone (except possibly 
high-level resellers) who doesn't is a fool.

Perhaps I'm in a bad mood today about negativism, if that isn't 
circular logic.  It's far too easy to slam anonymously on this and 
other mailing lists. I try to be very careful to keep all of my 
potential conflicts of interest in the open.  Some of you may 
remember a flap around the holidays about how Cisco was going to go 
after me, CertZone, and other information providers -- as far as 
anyone can tell, it was a hoax.

Product comparisons about carrier-class routers are far more credible 
on mailing lists like cisco-nsp and jupiter-nsp, where cutesy or 
unverifiable email is quite rare.

Continuing to muse, I am actively involved in next-generation router 
product R&D (and no, I can't talk about details). There are recurring 
threads here about lookup time being a major issue, yet lab-level 
measurements regard that as a largely solved problem.

Convergence time is complex and ill-defined. I have a current 
internet-draft, 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-berkowitz-bgpcon-00.txt, 
which I expect to get into the formal track (probably the 
Benchmarking Technology Working Group, but the correct WG is TBD). 
To show the objectivity that I'd like to see in the industry, I've 
gotten excellent comments on the draft from someone at Cisco, and we 
will probably coauthor the next version.  I'd be delighted to have a 
Juniper coauthor.


>Am I the only one who finds this funny?   I mean, isn't John Chambers
>Cisco's CEO?
>
>Sorry for the OTM,
>
>Rodgers Moore
>
>"John Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>>  Anyone who have experience with Juniper routers would like to
comment on
>>  its performance (M20 and 40
>>  series) in comparison to Cisco GSR 12000s.  My company is in the
process
>>  of evaluating Juniper products
>>  because we are not very happy with Cisco performance.  Our router
>>  crashes almost every week which is
>>  unacceptable and Cisco didn't provide much help other than giving
us
>>  buggy IOS code.
>>
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