I don't think there's anyone in this industry who hasn't reverse engineered something in order not to pay royalties. Something like EtherChannel comes to mind. I think DEC originally created hunt-groups for trunking technologies long before Cisco had EtherChannel. I heard Cisco reverse-engineered the technology as well as most other vendors. That's why we have low-level compatibility between non-standard versions of trunking. Having said that, I would be concerned with support on any reverse engineered application or product.
Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. Cell 717-805-5536 Office 717-737-8586 FAX 717-737-0290 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Columbus Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment on this.... Let me issue a disclaimer first: I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm only responding to the information presented in these posts. I've been, so far, unable to verify the information presented for myself. If I'm mistaken, and the product isn't a Cisco ripoff, then I apologize. With that said: Am I the only one who finds it troubling that this company has, apparently, copied Cisco's proprietary designs and is selling them as their own? Sure they're cheaper. So is pirated software. Does it make it right to support an operation like this? These guys even ripped off Cisco's product line names. Surely there's some legal recourse for Cisco, at least in the USA. I guess I'm bothered because this group is so anti-NDA violation, anti-software piracy, etc....and then when something like this comes out, no one bothers to speak up against it. In fact, people seem excited because they'll be able to put together a cheaper lab to practice for the CCIE lab. Personally, I don't see any difference between this and willingly buying / exchanging pirated software. If I discover that the claims are true, and that this company is only selling reverse-engineered Cisco products, I, for one, will not support them or their equipment. Just my opinion... Craig At 03:10 PM 7/26/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Hi group, > >Huawei routers were introduced into the local market sometime in the past 2 >months in an asian networking exhibition called "Communicasia". > >That's where I met the Huawei distributor whom had volunteered to provide a >demo set for me to play with (myself from an international mnc, has current >projects to revamp our LAN/WAN structure) and guess what, my boss is >requesting me to have a look at their routers ! > >The day the router came into the office, I noticed that there were no >manuals provided. After meddling with the router, I believed that there was >no need to request for one in the first place ! There will be no >requirements to load the box with IOS, it is IOS (with a bit of >differences). The whole thing was CLONED ! > >I'm not too sure about reversed-engineering but more on how Cisco is going >to protect their market dominance. With boxes selling for 30-40% cheaper, I >guess lots of ppl will be rushing off to buy it. > >Guess might as well I pack my bags for China to get a new set of >certifications. > >Ron Tan Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 2 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49797&t=49778 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
