Hello Dr. Mark, I looked at a couple of Cal 29s in my search. What put me off them was some articles I found about a steel beam that has a tenancy to corrode away, between the sole and the hull. There is a great deal of fiberglass work to get at it and repair it. I believe its function was as a mast step support.
There is (or was) a pretty good website out there where a guy documented the repair really well. I'm wondering though, what is it that makes the local C&C worth 50% more than the NADA value. "a year or 2" left on the canvass? that sounds like end of life to me. The sails are in "good shape?" How old are they? I've heard these terms in my search and it always turned out to be an exaggeration on condition. You need to go in thinking you need new sails and canvass unless you know how old the sails are or you can see for yourself what condition the canvass is in. My boat has, last year, brand new sails, canvass, motor, standing rigging etc. etc. etc... I think I'd be lucky to get $22,500 for it. I only had the boat out 6 times last year and brought the canvass and sails to the sail loft for inspection, repair and storage. I could not believe the things that needed done. There were signs of chafing already and they reinforced those areas. Sails take a beating, assume the worst, there is probably $2500 - $4000 right there. If this guy had his sails serviced every year, he would have said that. It's still a buyer's market out there. Sounds like a pretty steep price tag to me... Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Another boat Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:30:25 -0300 Seriously looking at another boat. Checked out a local C&C 29 mkII on Sunday. http://novascotia.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-C-C-29-MK-II-W0QQAdIdZ474384947 Overall the boat looked good. The paint job on the hull was rough (needs a good sanding and new bottom coat). The boat is on a trailer - which makes it easier to move the 90 min drive home, and the trailer allows for easier yard management (assuming the hoist can get the boat high enough to put it to bed). He reports the sails in "good shape" (but no spinnaker), engine supposedly runs well (not in water to test), hull looks good with no dimples or dings (although there is some minor damage at the stern where someone likely backed into a slip too hard), teak and holly sole is a bit rough (no mold but finish is beat up), dodger and sail cover reported to "have a year or 2 left in them", cushions ok (few years left in fabric) The seller is asking $22500. Maybe offer $17000-18000 firm? (I have had a few emails with a new list member, Bob Dryer, looking to sell a C&C 29 II in Long Island sound for $14500 --- but that's a long way away, hard to look at the boat plus the cost of getting it back and the fact that I'd have to buy a cradle - all together, if I can get a local boat for $4000 the price is pretty even) NADA average value of a 1983 C&C 29 II is $13000 ----------------- Also - Thinking of looking at a Cal 9.2, 1982, listed at $20000 http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-Cal-9-2-Sailboat-Price-Reduced-W0QQAdIdZ493465591 (NADA value at $13800) Plus another Cal 9.2 listed at $15K (but no pictures). Any thoughts? I'm not familiar with the Cal boats. Reading online the comments are that the Cal is more tender and that the diesel is raw water cooled (which can lead to more issues as they age). Overall online comments are not positive - seems the design may play to the worst parts of the IOR rules. Also some negative comments about decks etc. I don't want a poorly behaved boat that I can't manage in gusty winds or something that will ruin sailing for the kids --- maybe I'm answering my own thoughts on the Cal? Can't say I like the way the pinched rear end looks either! Any thoughts appreciated, Mark -- --------------------- Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca --------------------- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
