Interesting discussion - thanks Shawn for launching it.

Last October at Emerald Bay, Catalina Island I moored a chartered Catalina 390 
next to C&C 30 MK I hull #493, “Katherine Patricia,” hailing port Berkeley, CA. 
 I spoke with her owner Alexander Simpson, who is not on this mail list as far 
as I know, but is on the C&C owners’ Facebook group.  He said he’d sailed her 
from the West Coast to Hawaii and back.  We didn’t discuss what kind of 
conditions he encountered.  But he did say that in preparation he’d resealed 
the deck / hull joint (with 5200, which made me wonder if that’s the right 
material for that job).  His boat was also set up with a self-steering wind 
vane and an asymmetrical spinnaker.

I’ve also seen a couple 35-40’ C&Cs in marinas at Harbor Island, San Diego, but 
have no idea if or where those boats have sailed.  Maybe down Mexico way.

As for Grenadine, the worst conditions I’ve been in were 48mph gusts at 
Chatfield Reservoir. We saw it coming and doused the headsail before getting 
hit, but had to motor head-to-wind into the shadow of the dam to douse the main 
safely, then motored to the marina and took two tries to get into the slip.  
Sea state is not that big an issue on my lake.  So all that doesn’t really 
apply to your question.  But having said that, I chartered a Bali 4.5 cat in 
the BVI a few weeks ago.  We had some 25kt days, with 6’ wind waves, and 
another day with a 5’ east swell, and I would have loved to sail Grenadine down 
there.  I’m sure she would have handled it just fine, and loved it.  Didn’t 
happen to see any C&Cs on that trip, and not for lack of looking.

Josh I’d be interested in that article you referred to, if you can find it.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> 1I saw a C&C in Uruguay.  It's hailing port was in Delaware.  So there is 
> that.
> 
> My experience and my the reports from others is that C&Cs are generally well 
> built, strong boats.  That being said, "Are the good blue water boats?"  I 
> would suggest no.  They typically have less tankage than other similar sized 
> boats.  They often have fin keels that create a flat spot forward of the 
> keel.  This can result in a pretty good pounding with the right wave height 
> and frequency.  Most of them were catering to the racer-cruiser an as a 
> result tend to carry a bit more sail for the racer but as a cruiser often had 
> shorter than appropriate keels.  
> 
> Many people have blue water dreams and end up buying the perfect bluewater 
> boats.  Then they have extreme difficulty untying the lines.  Now they are 
> stuck not having fun in their local tributaries with anything less than 15 
> kts of wind.  I say buy the boat that fits where you are sailing now.  Not 
> where you think you will be sailing in the future.  You can always buy and 
> sell later.
> 
> I have an article that may be pertinent to your concerns.  If I find it I'll 
> forward it to you.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk 
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 11:22 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> I'm going to switch things up a bit from the gloomy topic of my current boat 
> purchase: how many of you have taken your C&C offshore, and if so, which 
> boat, where to, and how did it manage the conditions? If you have not gone 
> offshore, what are the worst conditions you've experienced in a C&C, and how 
> would the performance of the boat in these conditions make you feel about 
> taking it offshore?
> 
> One of the very first boats we looked at was a Westsail 32 (don't laugh), 
> partly because they are proven world cruisers, and the boat has been from BC 
> to NZ and back. But with our fickle air in the summer here, a good light air 
> boat seems like a better choice, but I also want something that can take a 
> beating without worrying about our safety.
> 
> -- 
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com 
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