Thanks for all the great replies. Interesting about the 30-1 setup for
offshore. There is one in Victoria selling for $55K (for almost a year now)
that the owner put over 50K into, but never left due to health issues.
re: the hull-deck joint. This is one reason I was looking at Ericsons for
months, as their glassed over joint is said to be very strong and leakproof
(outward facing flange, with inside glassed over). I was hoping to take
this 35 into some big waves to test the joint for leakage, but the owner
wasn't game for it. There is a hose at the slip, so I might try spraying it
if I get a chance.

Still pondering things tonight. Thanks everyone!


On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:03 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Interesting discussion - thanks Shawn for launching it.
>
> Last October at Emerald Bay, Catalina Island I moored a chartered Catalina
> 390 next to C&C 30 MK I hull #493, “Katherine Patricia,” hailing port
> Berkeley, CA.  I spoke with her owner Alexander Simpson, who is not on this
> mail list as far as I know, but is on the C&C owners’ Facebook group.  He
> said he’d sailed her from the West Coast to Hawaii and back.  We didn’t
> discuss what kind of conditions he encountered.  But he did say that in
> preparation he’d resealed the deck / hull joint (with 5200, which made me
> wonder if that’s the right material for that job).  His boat was also set
> up with a self-steering wind vane and an asymmetrical spinnaker.
>
> I’ve also seen a couple 35-40’ C&Cs in marinas at Harbor Island, San
> Diego, but have no idea if or where those boats have sailed.  Maybe down
> Mexico way.
>
> As for Grenadine, the worst conditions I’ve been in were 48mph gusts at
> Chatfield Reservoir. We saw it coming and doused the headsail before
> getting hit, but had to motor head-to-wind into the shadow of the dam to
> douse the main safely, then motored to the marina and took two tries to get
> into the slip.  Sea state is not that big an issue on my lake.  So all that
> doesn’t really apply to your question.  But having said that, I chartered a
> Bali 4.5 cat in the BVI a few weeks ago.  We had some 25kt days, with 6’
> wind waves, and another day with a 5’ east swell, and I would have loved to
> sail Grenadine down there.  I’m sure she would have handled it just fine,
> and loved it.  Didn’t happen to see any C&Cs on that trip, and not for lack
> of looking.
>
> Josh I’d be interested in that article you referred to, if you can find it.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
> On Apr 24, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 1I saw a C&C in Uruguay.  It's hailing port was in Delaware.  So there is
> that.
>
> My experience and my the reports from others is that C&Cs are generally
> well built, strong boats.  That being said, "Are the good blue water
> boats?"  I would suggest no.  They typically have less tankage than other
> similar sized boats.  They often have fin keels that create a flat spot
> forward of the keel.  This can result in a pretty good pounding with the
> right wave height and frequency.  Most of them were catering to the
> racer-cruiser an as a result tend to carry a bit more sail for the racer
> but as a cruiser often had shorter than appropriate keels.
>
> Many people have blue water dreams and end up buying the perfect bluewater
> boats.  Then they have extreme difficulty untying the lines.  Now they are
> stuck not having fun in their local tributaries with anything less than 15
> kts of wind.  I say buy the boat that fits where you are sailing now.  Not
> where you think you will be sailing in the future.  You can always buy and
> sell later.
>
> I have an article that may be pertinent to your concerns.  If I find it
> I'll forward it to you.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 11:22 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to switch things up a bit from the gloomy topic of my current
>> boat purchase: how many of you have taken your C&C offshore, and if so,
>> which boat, where to, and how did it manage the conditions? If you have not
>> gone offshore, what are the worst conditions you've experienced in a C&C,
>> and how would the performance of the boat in these conditions make you feel
>> about taking it offshore?
>>
>> One of the very first boats we looked at was a Westsail 32 (don't laugh),
>> partly because they are proven world cruisers, and the boat has been from
>> BC to NZ and back. But with our fickle air in the summer here, a good light
>> air boat seems like a better choice, but I also want something that can
>> take a beating without worrying about our safety.
>>
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
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