Some people insist that if it is not chocolate, it is not ice cream. The art is in SQL, not the engine.
Be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water. :o) Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerrit P. Haase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DBMAIL Developers Mailinglist" <dbmail-dev@dbmail.org> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:09 AM Subject: [Dbmail-dev] Re: Dbmail Postgres Database Inconsistencies... > Hello Aaron, > > Aaron Stone wrote: > > > ""Gerrit P. Haase"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >> Hello Ilja, > >> > >>> Of course, there's no such thing as triggers in MySQL.. *sigh* > >> > >> Drop MySQL support and add support for e.g. Sybase or Oracle or DB2 or > >> MSSQL or all of them. > > > That's just silly for two reasons. > > > First and foremost, Sybase, Oracle, DB2 and MSSQL all cost $$$$$$$$. If I > > No, that is not true, Sybase Adaptive Server f. Linux is free. DB2 is > available as an 'Express' version for free, MSSQL engine is available > free for everyone, Oracle personal edition is kind of free, cannot > remember the exact license. > > But you may also try to keep it all compatible with MySQL and never > use advanced RDBMS features like subselects, foreign keys, triggers, > stored procedures, ... > > > had a Euro symbol on my keyboard I'd add a bunch of those, too. Although > > Sybase has just come out in a free (also libre?) version, there is nothing > > for us to gain by jumping on board a ship that isn't sailing yet. > > Not open source, but free to use. The only thing needed to support > all standard databases would be ODBC support in dbmail and some > specific SQL scripts to init the tables in the database. > > > MySQL is a great platform; it's easy to use, insanely fast and has single > > handedly made SQL and RDBMS technology available to the masses i.e. those > > without tens of thousands of dollars in DBA training. Although MySQL lacks > > a number of features that DBMail can benefit from, those features can be > > worked around or just saved for later when MySQL stable includes them. > > Triggers work quite well in the MySQL 4.1 series. > > MySQL is not great, it is crap, of course it is fast, but it lacks > most important features. Real SQL is available as open sopurce to the > masses without MySQL too, get PostgreSQL which is a real database, or > get Firebird or Ozelot. > > Ergo: there are many other free open sourced SQL conform database > servers that it never should be neccessary to use MySQL. > > > E.g. what do I need DBA training for SQL Server? To issue a command > like createdb? I suggest reading the documentation included with > Sybase or any other database vendor, there are more informations as > you need to administer their products. In fact I was able to setup a > Sybase database server in less than ten minutes when I did it the > first time where it lasts one hour to do so with MySQL because of the > lack of documentation included with the MySQL package. > > > Gerrit > -- > =^..^= > > > _______________________________________________ > Dbmail-dev mailing list > Dbmail-dev@dbmail.org > http://twister.fastxs.net/mailman/listinfo/dbmail-dev >