The original goal for including the app showcase was to demonstrate that developers can build rockstar-quality apps using Cordova. I agree that by opening the invitation to anyone without a vetting process, we fall short of the original goal. Indeed, we might end up with a throng of hobo-quality apps using any technology under the sun :-)
At the same time, I don't want to sign up any of the Cordova committers to navigate the prejudicial question of "what counts as good?" Thus, I like Jörg's proposal that we raise the empirical bar for entry. App developers need to prove not only that their app is a Cordova app, but they have to submit something that helps other developers build a better app. Here's a straw man proposal intended to provoke response: Must appear in a public store Must use Cordova Minimum 4 start rating Minimum 1,000 downloads Submitter must write a 200+ word blog post answering – Which platforms are supported (minimum two) – Which plugins are used? – Which frameworks are used, if any? – Syncing, languages, support for disabled people, … – Something about problems – Development environment and tools used Thoughts? rjs Ryan J. Salva | Principal Program Manager Lead Visual Studio Tools for Apache Cordova rsa...@microsoft.com 206 612 5079 mobile -----Original Message----- From: Joerg Holz [mailto:h...@hamburg.de] Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 8:11 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Curating Apps thx for agreeing, but I see things different: – What means pretty good, who will decide this, how to measure? – What mean's popular, count of downloads? Cordova as project has to have a view from Cordova -> Apps and not from the other side. People have to say, why Cordova is good, Cordova has not to say why an app is good. And, yes, there is a need to have a blog or someting else for helping people and doing the small, but important, things. The most important thing is, that a lot of people starting with Cordova don’t know a lot about javascript, htlm and css and that is the reason why a lot of questions on SO are unanswered. Jörg > Am 19.10.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>: > > I agree with Joerg. The only reason we have curated apps on the page is to > show people that Cordova can be used for building real apps. One perception > people have today is that Cordova and WebView is not fast enough, or that > serious applications are written in native languages. > > I think that any app on the showcase should emphasize 3 things > > - The app is pretty good, and feels like native and performs like one. > - The app works across multiple platforms, ensuring code sharing > - The app is popular, something that our users may have come across, or would > like to try. > > While it would be great to talk about how the app was built, I fear that it > would be hard to get apps to write all that information. It would actually be > awesome if we have blog posts that has articles from these app authors, > describing their experience with writing Cordova apps. > > > > On 10/19/15, 5:46 AM, "Joerg Holz" <h...@hamburg.de> wrote: > >> I don’t like the phonegap app pages. They are cheap ads for developers, >> nothing more. >> >> >> My proposal is another one. Cordova has two main problems in the public: >> >> – Are complex apps working well? >> >> – How is an app exactly developed? >> >> >> So, I see a deal: The one, who want’s to be curated on the site has to tell >> details about the app. >> >> >> That means: >> >> We could curate apps/developers, if they telling someting about their >> solutions, for example: >> >> – Which platforms are supported (minimum two) >> >> – Which plugins are used? >> >> – Which frameworks are used, if any? >> >> – Syncing, languages, support for disabled people, … >> >> – Something about problems >> >> – Developing enviroment >> >> >> A few of the apps are displayed randomly, each in a category (utility, >> production, … like in the stores) and there is a list with all apps on a >> second page. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Joerg >> >> >> >> >>> Am 19.10.2015 um 06:12 schrieb Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> This was part of my hesitation in doing this. >>> PhoneGap.com gets >20 submissions a week, and someone has to look at them, >>> validate them. Here [1] is a link to page 30 of the android apps, and there >>> are 24 apps per page. >>> >>> We also have to consider appropriateness of the app, is it adult? mature? >>> We cannot display every app submitted. >>> I agree with automating the display of apps, we don't want to have to do >>> this. >>> >>> [1] http://phonegap.com/app/android/page30/ >>> >>> >>> >>> My team is hiring! >>> @purplecabbage >>> risingj.com >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Dmitry Blotsky <dblot...@microsoft.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> So, there are two items to address here: >>>> - display policy >>>> - content policy >>>> >>>> I propose the following policy for app content: >>>> - if the app is on an app store, it is OK to show on our page >>>> >>>> I propose the following strategy for app display: >>>> - show 6 apps and 6 tools >>>> - pick them at random at each page load from their respective lists >>>> - when we agree on quality metrics: >>>> - use them to sort instead of picking randomly OR >>>> - pick arbitrarily at our discretion >>>> >>>> Kindly, >>>> Dmitry >>>> >>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:19 PM, julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmob...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think every cordova app should be accepted and displayed, but we should >>>>> create a "Featured apps" section like >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=phonegap.com&data=01%7c01%7cdblotsky%40microsoft.com%7cb6348c11e8b944fe70cf08d2d66f7669%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=eDhU2NWipwMST6Kvu%2bxGRZVseukwYgOoS2QBhmPTK78%3d, >>>> where we show "the best >>>>> of the best", or show the best on first page >>>>> >>>>> 2015-10-16 23:07 GMT+02:00 Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>: >>>>> >>>>>> +1 for curation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apps in the showcase should really be the best of the best, yeah? Apps >>>>>> that show that the myths about Cordova aren’t true, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 October 2015 at 07:44:49, Joe Bowser (bows...@gmail.com) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I definitely think we should be curating the apps to make sure >>>> they're >>>>>> legit. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dmitry Blotsky < >>>> dblot...@microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a quick thought: should we be curating the apps in the showcase to >>>>>>> make sure they’re legit? I verify that they’re on an app store, but the >>>>>>> Android app store has no curation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kindly, >>>>>>> Dmitry >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >>>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80 >> h...@hamburg.de >> >> RELAUNCHED: >> http://www.workflow-management.net >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org -------------------------------------------------------- Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80 h...@hamburg.de RELAUNCHED: http://www.workflow-management.net --------------------------------------------------------
