I like Carlos' proposal. Reviewing PRs for these apps and judging by whatever criteria we finally decide (however objective/subjective) will not be worth our time. The volume of PRs over the last couple of weeks has been quite significant in this area.
At the end of the day, we just need 5-10 showcase apps. -Nikhil -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 5:37 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Curating Apps I think we make it more simpler, a PMC member to propose to add an app that he/she tried out and feels that it deserves to be show case as a good example of a great Cordova App. - remove the "add your app" - PMC members mails the list, that he evaluated the app and a short description on why to added and he is planning to added, and ask if someone opposed with a -1 - Like Joe said, we don't need a tons of Apps, just a few will satisfy the goal - The Apache way, if there are no -1 app get's added. On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:27 PM Dmitry Blotsky <dblot...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Sounds like we’ve got some (potentially mutually exclusive) points: > - request detailed app descriptions from submitters > - curate based on detailed criteria > - curate based on loose criteria > - only accept blog posts, and get rid of the showcase > - just accept all requests > > Should this be a proposal on cordova-discuss? Or does someone feel > like we have a consensus? The ultimate goal is to have something that > displays good use of Cordova. I’d personally like to go with the > easiest way to achieve this. > > Kindly, > Dmitry > > > On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Joerg Holz <h...@hamburg.de> wrote: > > > > I like the slogan: "submit something that helps other developers > > build a > better app“. > > > > I disagree about your app store points, staring, public store, we > > don’t > need that. > > > > And my opion is, that we should promote apps, which are clean or > > mostly > clean from any Framework. > > > > > > Joerg > > > > > >> Am 19.10.2015 um 20:11 schrieb Ryan J. Salva <rsa...@microsoft.com>: > >> > >> The original goal for including the app showcase was to demonstrate > that developers can build rockstar-quality apps using Cordova. I agree > that by opening the invitation to anyone without a vetting process, we > fall short of the original goal. Indeed, we might end up with a throng > of hobo-quality apps using any technology under the sun :-) > >> > >> At the same time, I don't want to sign up any of the Cordova > >> committers > to navigate the prejudicial question of "what counts as good?" Thus, I > like Jörg's proposal that we raise the empirical bar for entry. App > developers need to prove not only that their app is a Cordova app, but > they have to submit something that helps other developers build a better app. > >> > >> Here's a straw man proposal intended to provoke response: > >> > >> Must appear in a public store > >> Must use Cordova > >> Minimum 4 start rating > >> Minimum 1,000 downloads > >> Submitter must write a 200+ word blog post answering – Which > >> platforms are supported (minimum two) – Which plugins are used? > >> – Which frameworks are used, if any? > >> – Syncing, languages, support for disabled people, … – Something > >> about problems – Development environment and tools used > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> rjs > >> > >> Ryan J. Salva | Principal Program Manager Lead Visual Studio > >> Tools for Apache Cordova rsa...@microsoft.com > >> 206 612 5079 mobile > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Joerg Holz [mailto:h...@hamburg.de] > >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 8:11 AM > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Curating Apps > >> > >> thx for agreeing, but I see things different: > >> > >> – What means pretty good, who will decide this, how to measure? > >> > >> – What mean's popular, count of downloads? > >> > >> Cordova as project has to have a view from Cordova -> Apps and not > >> from > the other side. People have to say, why Cordova is good, Cordova has > not to say why an app is good. > >> > >> > >> And, yes, there is a need to have a blog or someting else for > >> helping > people and doing the small, but important, things. > >> > >> The most important thing is, that a lot of people starting with > >> Cordova > don’t know a lot about javascript, htlm and css and that is the reason > why a lot of questions on SO are unanswered. > >> > >> > >> Jörg > >> > >> > >>> Am 19.10.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>: > >>> > >>> I agree with Joerg. The only reason we have curated apps on the > >>> page > is to show people that Cordova can be used for building real apps. One > perception people have today is that Cordova and WebView is not fast > enough, or that serious applications are written in native languages. > >>> > >>> I think that any app on the showcase should emphasize 3 things > >>> > >>> - The app is pretty good, and feels like native and performs like one. > >>> - The app works across multiple platforms, ensuring code sharing > >>> - The app is popular, something that our users may have come > >>> across, > or would like to try. > >>> > >>> While it would be great to talk about how the app was built, I > >>> fear > that it would be hard to get apps to write all that information. It > would actually be awesome if we have blog posts that has articles from > these app authors, describing their experience with writing Cordova apps. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/19/15, 5:46 AM, "Joerg Holz" <h...@hamburg.de> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don’t like the phonegap app pages. They are cheap ads for > developers, nothing more. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> My proposal is another one. Cordova has two main problems in the > public: > >>>> > >>>> – Are complex apps working well? > >>>> > >>>> – How is an app exactly developed? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> So, I see a deal: The one, who want’s to be curated on the site > >>>> has > to tell details about the app. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> That means: > >>>> > >>>> We could curate apps/developers, if they telling someting about > >>>> their > solutions, for example: > >>>> > >>>> – Which platforms are supported (minimum two) > >>>> > >>>> – Which plugins are used? > >>>> > >>>> – Which frameworks are used, if any? > >>>> > >>>> – Syncing, languages, support for disabled people, … > >>>> > >>>> – Something about problems > >>>> > >>>> – Developing enviroment > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> A few of the apps are displayed randomly, each in a category > (utility, production, … like in the stores) and there is a list with > all apps on a second page. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Joerg > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Am 19.10.2015 um 06:12 schrieb Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com>: > >>>>> > >>>>> This was part of my hesitation in doing this. > >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=PhoneGap.com&; > >>>>> data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cb4e7e06a004e46a8f7fc08 > >>>>> d2dc0b5159%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=xLExNR7j > >>>>> 4pa52lvKXsCP2O4lulNcj%2frZJ%2byt0CTJ3uc%3d gets >20 submissions > >>>>> a week, and someone has to look at > them, > >>>>> validate them. Here [1] is a link to page 30 of the android > >>>>> apps, > and there > >>>>> are 24 apps per page. > >>>>> > >>>>> We also have to consider appropriateness of the app, is it adult? > mature? > >>>>> We cannot display every app submitted. > >>>>> I agree with automating the display of apps, we don't want to > >>>>> have > to do > >>>>> this. > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] > >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2f > >>>>> phonegap.com%2fapp%2fandroid%2fpage30%2f&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh > >>>>> %40microsoft.com%7cb4e7e06a004e46a8f7fc08d2dc0b5159%7c72f988bf86 > >>>>> f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=nb0SdGVESw8oFtNdQxYNRoOL1bKT7vf > >>>>> maXep4hQevkA%3d > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> My team is hiring! > >>>>> @purplecabbage > >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&d > >>>>> ata=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cb4e7e06a004e46a8f7fc08d > >>>>> 2dc0b5159%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=706mqaB8n > >>>>> 8QvdQl2bA30UyGqKWmxzAkBJgT0jPcBAa0%3d > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Dmitry Blotsky < > dblot...@microsoft.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> So, there are two items to address here: > >>>>>> - display policy > >>>>>> - content policy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I propose the following policy for app content: > >>>>>> - if the app is on an app store, it is OK to show on our page > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I propose the following strategy for app display: > >>>>>> - show 6 apps and 6 tools > >>>>>> - pick them at random at each page load from their respective > >>>>>> lists > >>>>>> - when we agree on quality metrics: > >>>>>> - use them to sort instead of picking randomly OR > >>>>>> - pick arbitrarily at our discretion > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kindly, > >>>>>> Dmitry > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:19 PM, julio cesar sanchez < > jcesarmob...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think every cordova app should be accepted and displayed, > >>>>>>> but we > should > >>>>>>> create a "Featured apps" section like > >>>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=phonegap.com&data=0 > 1%7c01%7cdblotsky%40microsoft.com%7cb6348c11e8b944fe70cf08d2d66f7669%7 > c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=eDhU2NWipwMST6Kvu%2bxGRZVs > eukwYgOoS2QBhmPTK78%3d > , > >>>>>> where we show "the best > >>>>>>> of the best", or show the best on first page > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2015-10-16 23:07 GMT+02:00 Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> +1 for curation. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Apps in the showcase should really be the best of the best, yeah? > Apps > >>>>>>>> that show that the myths about Cordova aren’t true, etc. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 17 October 2015 at 07:44:49, Joe Bowser > >>>>>>>> (bows...@gmail.com) > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes, I definitely think we should be curating the apps to > >>>>>>>> make > sure > >>>>>> they're > >>>>>>>> legit. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dmitry Blotsky < > >>>>>> dblot...@microsoft.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hey folks, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Just a quick thought: should we be curating the apps in the > showcase to > >>>>>>>>> make sure they’re legit? I verify that they’re on an app > >>>>>>>>> store, > but the > >>>>>>>>> Android app store has no curation. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Kindly, > >>>>>>>>> Dmitry > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80 > >>>> h...@hamburg.de > >>>> > >>>> RELAUNCHED: > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fw > >>>> ww.workflow-management.net&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.co > >>>> m%7cb4e7e06a004e46a8f7fc08d2dc0b5159%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd0 > >>>> 11db47%7c1&sdata=%2f5DJs4wLmVE2h3mxf8WSUCVl5L%2bMK0KpytC%2bnQn1Dq > >>>> g%3d > >>>> -------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------- > >> Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80 > >> h...@hamburg.de > >> > >> RELAUNCHED: > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww > >> .workflow-management.net&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c > >> b4e7e06a004e46a8f7fc08d2dc0b5159%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47 > >> %7c1&sdata=%2f5DJs4wLmVE2h3mxf8WSUCVl5L%2bMK0KpytC%2bnQn1Dqg%3d > >> -------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80 > > h...@hamburg.de > > > > RELAUNCHED: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww. > > workflow-management.net&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cb4 > > e7e06a004e46a8f7fc08d2dc0b5159%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c > > 1&sdata=%2f5DJs4wLmVE2h3mxf8WSUCVl5L%2bMK0KpytC%2bnQn1Dqg%3d > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
