I like the idea of putting the onus on the developer to actually do some marketing and selling of their app to us :) We should have that minimum bar that they need to pass, I like Ryan's listed criteria.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Ryan J. Salva <rsa...@microsoft.com> wrote: > The original goal for including the app showcase was to demonstrate that > developers can build rockstar-quality apps using Cordova. I agree that by > opening the invitation to anyone without a vetting process, we fall short of > the original goal. Indeed, we might end up with a throng of hobo-quality apps > using any technology under the sun :-) > > At the same time, I don't want to sign up any of the Cordova committers to > navigate the prejudicial question of "what counts as good?" Thus, I like > Jörg's proposal that we raise the empirical bar for entry. App developers > need to prove not only that their app is a Cordova app, but they have to > submit something that helps other developers build a better app. > > Here's a straw man proposal intended to provoke response: > > Must appear in a public store > Must use Cordova > Minimum 4 start rating > Minimum 1,000 downloads > Submitter must write a 200+ word blog post answering > – Which platforms are supported (minimum two) > – Which plugins are used? > – Which frameworks are used, if any? > – Syncing, languages, support for disabled people, … > – Something about problems > – Development environment and tools used > > Thoughts? > rjs > > Ryan J. Salva | Principal Program Manager Lead > Visual Studio Tools for Apache Cordova > rsa...@microsoft.com > 206 612 5079 mobile > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joerg Holz [mailto:h...@hamburg.de] > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 8:11 AM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Curating Apps > > thx for agreeing, but I see things different: > > – What means pretty good, who will decide this, how to measure? > > – What mean's popular, count of downloads? > > Cordova as project has to have a view from Cordova -> Apps and not from the > other side. People have to say, why Cordova is good, Cordova has not to say > why an app is good. > > > And, yes, there is a need to have a blog or someting else for helping people > and doing the small, but important, things. > > The most important thing is, that a lot of people starting with Cordova don’t > know a lot about javascript, htlm and css and that is the reason why a lot of > questions on SO are unanswered. > > > Jörg > > >> Am 19.10.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>: >> >> I agree with Joerg. The only reason we have curated apps on the page is to >> show people that Cordova can be used for building real apps. One perception >> people have today is that Cordova and WebView is not fast enough, or that >> serious applications are written in native languages. >> >> I think that any app on the showcase should emphasize 3 things >> >> - The app is pretty good, and feels like native and performs like one. >> - The app works across multiple platforms, ensuring code sharing >> - The app is popular, something that our users may have come across, or >> would like to try. >> >> While it would be great to talk about how the app was built, I fear that it >> would be hard to get apps to write all that information. It would actually >> be awesome if we have blog posts that has articles from these app authors, >> describing their experience with writing Cordova apps. >> >> >> >> On 10/19/15, 5:46 AM, "Joerg Holz" <h...@hamburg.de> wrote: >> >>> I don’t like the phonegap app pages. They are cheap ads for developers, >>> nothing more. >>> >>> >>> My proposal is another one. Cordova has two main problems in the public: >>> >>> – Are complex apps working well? >>> >>> – How is an app exactly developed? >>> >>> >>> So, I see a deal: The one, who want’s to be curated on the site has to tell >>> details about the app. >>> >>> >>> That means: >>> >>> We could curate apps/developers, if they telling someting about their >>> solutions, for example: >>> >>> – Which platforms are supported (minimum two) >>> >>> – Which plugins are used? >>> >>> – Which frameworks are used, if any? >>> >>> – Syncing, languages, support for disabled people, … >>> >>> – Something about problems >>> >>> – Developing enviroment >>> >>> >>> A few of the apps are displayed randomly, each in a category (utility, >>> production, … like in the stores) and there is a list with all apps on a >>> second page. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Joerg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Am 19.10.2015 um 06:12 schrieb Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> This was part of my hesitation in doing this. >>>> PhoneGap.com gets >20 submissions a week, and someone has to look at them, >>>> validate them. Here [1] is a link to page 30 of the android apps, and there >>>> are 24 apps per page. >>>> >>>> We also have to consider appropriateness of the app, is it adult? mature? >>>> We cannot display every app submitted. >>>> I agree with automating the display of apps, we don't want to have to do >>>> this. >>>> >>>> [1] http://phonegap.com/app/android/page30/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My team is hiring! >>>> @purplecabbage >>>> risingj.com >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Dmitry Blotsky <dblot...@microsoft.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, there are two items to address here: >>>>> - display policy >>>>> - content policy >>>>> >>>>> I propose the following policy for app content: >>>>> - if the app is on an app store, it is OK to show on our page >>>>> >>>>> I propose the following strategy for app display: >>>>> - show 6 apps and 6 tools >>>>> - pick them at random at each page load from their respective lists >>>>> - when we agree on quality metrics: >>>>> - use them to sort instead of picking randomly OR >>>>> - pick arbitrarily at our discretion >>>>> >>>>> Kindly, >>>>> Dmitry >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:19 PM, julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmob...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think every cordova app should be accepted and displayed, but we should >>>>>> create a "Featured apps" section like >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=phonegap.com&data=01%7c01%7cdblotsky%40microsoft.com%7cb6348c11e8b944fe70cf08d2d66f7669%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=eDhU2NWipwMST6Kvu%2bxGRZVseukwYgOoS2QBhmPTK78%3d, >>>>> where we show "the best >>>>>> of the best", or show the best on first page >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-10-16 23:07 GMT+02:00 Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 for curation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apps in the showcase should really be the best of the best, yeah? Apps >>>>>>> that show that the myths about Cordova aren’t true, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 17 October 2015 at 07:44:49, Joe Bowser (bows...@gmail.com) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I definitely think we should be curating the apps to make sure >>>>> they're >>>>>>> legit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dmitry Blotsky < >>>>> dblot...@microsoft.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a quick thought: should we be curating the apps in the showcase to >>>>>>>> make sure they’re legit? I verify that they’re on an app store, but the >>>>>>>> Android app store has no curation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kindly, >>>>>>>> Dmitry >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >>>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80 >>> h...@hamburg.de >>> >>> RELAUNCHED: >>> http://www.workflow-management.net >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80 > h...@hamburg.de > > RELAUNCHED: > http://www.workflow-management.net > -------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
