On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> wrote: > FWIW: > > -1 > > why introducing yet another level of "incubation" process ? > I find it (very) problematic trying to be in some sort of > "competition" w/ the Apache Incubator... > (even if the discussed targets here are JSF specific)
As I have attempted to point out elsewhere via email links (which presumably went unfollowed), not only is this "problematic"; per Incubator PMC consensus it is downright unacceptable. You simply can't have a mini-incubator so complete that it makes sense even to use the *name* "incubator". PLEASE read [1] for background, or skip directly to [2] (search for "Some possible solutions") to know what IS acceptable. There is no need for MyFaces to rehash my experiences on Commons' behalf two-plus years ago. [1] http://markmail.org/message/n3t7lksceuplh45r [2] http://markmail.org/message/r6ffmmyh6pxnn6nd Matt > > Why not simply "moving" future (MyFaces) GSoC directly to the Apache > Labs project ([1])?! > For there, just start coding and releasing (alphas etc). The new > release process is straightforward > and not heavyweight - so (alpha) releases are cheap. > > -M > > [1] http://labs.apache.org/ > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Bernd Bohmann > <bernd.bohm...@atanion.com> wrote: >> Ok, >> >> if there is no real difference between Apache Incubator and Apache >> MyFaces Incubator, >> I have to change my vote to >> >> -1 >> >> especially a have a problem with: >> >> All code donations from external organisations and >> existing external projects wishing to join MyFaces enter through the >> MyFaces-Incubator. >> >> This is the Apache Incubator role. >> >> Regards >> >> Bernd >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Gerhard Petracek >> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> hi bart, >>> >>> as mentioned [1] by mark it's also about ip clearance [2]. >>> >>> regards, >>> gerhard >>> >>> [1] >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/201110.mbox/%3c1319274310.93350.yahoomail...@web27807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E >>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html >>> >>> http://www.irian.at >>> >>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>> Courses in English and German >>> >>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>> >>> >>> 2011/11/1 Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl> >>>> >>>> +1 for the idea! >>>> I agree with Bernd about the name. For me, "incubator" is also associated >>>> with rules and legal stuff. We should encourage people to contribute, >>>> instead of scaring them away. "Sandbox" or "labs" sounds encouraging and >>>> accessible. But perhaps we should discuss/vote the name in another thread >>>> and first focus on the idea... >>>> Best regards, >>>> Bart Kummel >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 01:36, Gerhard Petracek >>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> in order to check if there is a community for a new sub-project (esp. >>>>> GSoC projects for MyFaces), we discussed [1] the introduction of an >>>>> internal incubator. >>>>> We would release such projects early and e.g. after a quarter we >>>>> decide if we keep and promote a project (as a sub-project or a module >>>>> of an existing sub-project) or if we drop it. >>>>> >>>>> Please vote: >>>>> >>>>> [+1] I like the idea >>>>> [0] I'm not convinced but I'm ok with it >>>>> [-1] I don't agree >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gerhard >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg >>>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >
