Why incubator for Gsoc projects? IMO that's wrong. Move stuff like that to Labs: build code and get releases out (release often, release early) Once there is interest - by some "community" decide where to go:
There some options, like: a) Going to the incubator - start to build a community around it ( the new experimental code base) b) if it makes sense, integrate it with existing MyFaces code (e.g. partial state savings improvements etc) (or make it Apache MyFaces subproject) -M On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > i think we should stop the vote and re-visit the original thread at [1]. > there we could discuss the name and we could re-visit the option to > use the asf incubator directly (for gsoc projects). > > regards, > gerhard > > [1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg > > > > 2011/11/2 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >> thx matt for the links >> >> regards, >> gerhard >> >> >> >> 2011/11/2 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>: >>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>> FWIW: >>>> >>>> -1 >>>> >>>> why introducing yet another level of "incubation" process ? >>>> I find it (very) problematic trying to be in some sort of >>>> "competition" w/ the Apache Incubator... >>>> (even if the discussed targets here are JSF specific) >>> >>> As I have attempted to point out elsewhere via email links (which >>> presumably went unfollowed), not only is this "problematic"; per >>> Incubator PMC consensus it is downright unacceptable. You simply >>> can't have a mini-incubator so complete that it makes sense even to >>> use the *name* "incubator". PLEASE read [1] for background, or skip >>> directly to [2] (search for "Some possible solutions") to know what IS >>> acceptable. There is no need for MyFaces to rehash my experiences on >>> Commons' behalf two-plus years ago. >>> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/n3t7lksceuplh45r >>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/r6ffmmyh6pxnn6nd >>> >>> Matt >>> >>>> >>>> Why not simply "moving" future (MyFaces) GSoC directly to the Apache >>>> Labs project ([1])?! >>>> For there, just start coding and releasing (alphas etc). The new >>>> release process is straightforward >>>> and not heavyweight - so (alpha) releases are cheap. >>>> >>>> -M >>>> >>>> [1] http://labs.apache.org/ >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Bernd Bohmann >>>> <bernd.bohm...@atanion.com> wrote: >>>>> Ok, >>>>> >>>>> if there is no real difference between Apache Incubator and Apache >>>>> MyFaces Incubator, >>>>> I have to change my vote to >>>>> >>>>> -1 >>>>> >>>>> especially a have a problem with: >>>>> >>>>> All code donations from external organisations and >>>>> existing external projects wishing to join MyFaces enter through the >>>>> MyFaces-Incubator. >>>>> >>>>> This is the Apache Incubator role. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Bernd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Gerhard Petracek >>>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> hi bart, >>>>>> >>>>>> as mentioned [1] by mark it's also about ip clearance [2]. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> gerhard >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] >>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/201110.mbox/%3c1319274310.93350.yahoomail...@web27807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E >>>>>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.irian.at >>>>>> >>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>>>> Courses in English and German >>>>>> >>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/11/1 Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 for the idea! >>>>>>> I agree with Bernd about the name. For me, "incubator" is also >>>>>>> associated with rules and legal stuff. We should encourage people to >>>>>>> contribute, instead of scaring them away. "Sandbox" or "labs" sounds >>>>>>> encouraging and accessible. But perhaps we should discuss/vote the name >>>>>>> in another thread and first focus on the idea... >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Bart Kummel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 01:36, Gerhard Petracek >>>>>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in order to check if there is a community for a new sub-project (esp. >>>>>>>> GSoC projects for MyFaces), we discussed [1] the introduction of an >>>>>>>> internal incubator. >>>>>>>> We would release such projects early and e.g. after a quarter we >>>>>>>> decide if we keep and promote a project (as a sub-project or a module >>>>>>>> of an existing sub-project) or if we drop it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please vote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [+1] I like the idea >>>>>>>> [0] I'm not convinced but I'm ok with it >>>>>>>> [-1] I don't agree >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Gerhard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >>> >> > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
