i think we should stop the vote and re-visit the original thread at [1].
there we could discuss the name and we could re-visit the option to
use the asf incubator directly (for gsoc projects).

regards,
gerhard

[1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg



2011/11/2 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>:
> thx matt for the links
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2011/11/2 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>:
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> 
>> wrote:
>>> FWIW:
>>>
>>> -1
>>>
>>> why introducing yet another level of "incubation" process ?
>>> I find it (very) problematic trying to be in some sort of
>>> "competition" w/ the Apache Incubator...
>>> (even if the discussed targets here are JSF specific)
>>
>> As I have attempted to point out elsewhere via email links (which
>> presumably went unfollowed), not only is this "problematic"; per
>> Incubator PMC consensus it is downright unacceptable.  You simply
>> can't have a mini-incubator so complete that it makes sense even to
>> use the *name* "incubator".  PLEASE read [1] for background, or skip
>> directly to [2] (search for "Some possible solutions") to know what IS
>> acceptable.  There is no need for MyFaces to rehash my experiences on
>> Commons' behalf two-plus years ago.
>>
>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/n3t7lksceuplh45r
>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/r6ffmmyh6pxnn6nd
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>>
>>> Why not simply "moving" future (MyFaces) GSoC directly to the Apache
>>> Labs project  ([1])?!
>>> For there, just start coding and releasing (alphas etc). The new
>>> release process is straightforward
>>> and not heavyweight - so (alpha) releases are cheap.
>>>
>>> -M
>>>
>>> [1] http://labs.apache.org/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Bernd Bohmann
>>> <bernd.bohm...@atanion.com> wrote:
>>>> Ok,
>>>>
>>>> if there is no real difference between Apache Incubator and Apache
>>>> MyFaces Incubator,
>>>> I have to change my vote to
>>>>
>>>> -1
>>>>
>>>> especially a have a problem with:
>>>>
>>>> All code donations from external organisations and
>>>> existing external projects wishing to join MyFaces enter through the
>>>> MyFaces-Incubator.
>>>>
>>>> This is the Apache Incubator role.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Bernd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Gerhard Petracek
>>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> hi bart,
>>>>>
>>>>> as mentioned [1] by mark it's also about ip clearance [2].
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> gerhard
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] 
>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/201110.mbox/%3c1319274310.93350.yahoomail...@web27807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E
>>>>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/11/1 Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for the idea!
>>>>>> I agree with Bernd about the name. For me, "incubator" is also 
>>>>>> associated with rules and legal stuff. We should encourage people to 
>>>>>> contribute, instead of scaring them away. "Sandbox" or "labs" sounds 
>>>>>> encouraging and accessible. But perhaps we should discuss/vote the name 
>>>>>> in another thread and first focus on the idea...
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Bart Kummel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 01:36, Gerhard Petracek 
>>>>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in order to check if there is a community for a new sub-project (esp.
>>>>>>> GSoC projects for MyFaces), we discussed [1] the introduction of an
>>>>>>> internal incubator.
>>>>>>> We would release such projects early and e.g. after a quarter we
>>>>>>> decide if we keep and promote a project (as a sub-project or a module
>>>>>>> of an existing sub-project) or if we drop it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please vote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [+1] I like the idea
>>>>>>> [0] I'm not convinced but I'm ok with it
>>>>>>> [-1] I don't agree
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Gerhard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>
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>>>
>>
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