besides labs (see [1]) i agree for the existing gsoc projects like: - component library for html5 components - webapp-test btw. webapp-test2 (manila) - codi-rad
i'm perfectly fine with a) since the basic topic was the >quick< community check. -> we should start a new thread for checking potential participants. regards, gerhard [1] http://markmail.org/message/c6vcpqbdpqygjwkt 2011/11/2 Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>: > Why incubator for Gsoc projects? > IMO that's wrong. > > Move stuff like that to Labs: build code and get releases out (release > often, release early) > Once there is interest - by some "community" decide where to go: > > There some options, like: > a) Going to the incubator - start to build a community around it ( the > new experimental code base) > b) if it makes sense, integrate it with existing MyFaces code (e.g. > partial state savings improvements etc) > (or make it Apache MyFaces subproject) > > -M > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Gerhard Petracek > <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> i think we should stop the vote and re-visit the original thread at [1]. >> there we could discuss the name and we could re-visit the option to >> use the asf incubator directly (for gsoc projects). >> >> regards, >> gerhard >> >> [1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg >> >> >> >> 2011/11/2 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >>> thx matt for the links >>> >>> regards, >>> gerhard >>> >>> >>> >>> 2011/11/2 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>: >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> FWIW: >>>>> >>>>> -1 >>>>> >>>>> why introducing yet another level of "incubation" process ? >>>>> I find it (very) problematic trying to be in some sort of >>>>> "competition" w/ the Apache Incubator... >>>>> (even if the discussed targets here are JSF specific) >>>> >>>> As I have attempted to point out elsewhere via email links (which >>>> presumably went unfollowed), not only is this "problematic"; per >>>> Incubator PMC consensus it is downright unacceptable. You simply >>>> can't have a mini-incubator so complete that it makes sense even to >>>> use the *name* "incubator". PLEASE read [1] for background, or skip >>>> directly to [2] (search for "Some possible solutions") to know what IS >>>> acceptable. There is no need for MyFaces to rehash my experiences on >>>> Commons' behalf two-plus years ago. >>>> >>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/n3t7lksceuplh45r >>>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/r6ffmmyh6pxnn6nd >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why not simply "moving" future (MyFaces) GSoC directly to the Apache >>>>> Labs project ([1])?! >>>>> For there, just start coding and releasing (alphas etc). The new >>>>> release process is straightforward >>>>> and not heavyweight - so (alpha) releases are cheap. >>>>> >>>>> -M >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://labs.apache.org/ >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Bernd Bohmann >>>>> <bernd.bohm...@atanion.com> wrote: >>>>>> Ok, >>>>>> >>>>>> if there is no real difference between Apache Incubator and Apache >>>>>> MyFaces Incubator, >>>>>> I have to change my vote to >>>>>> >>>>>> -1 >>>>>> >>>>>> especially a have a problem with: >>>>>> >>>>>> All code donations from external organisations and >>>>>> existing external projects wishing to join MyFaces enter through the >>>>>> MyFaces-Incubator. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the Apache Incubator role. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Bernd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Gerhard Petracek >>>>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> hi bart, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as mentioned [1] by mark it's also about ip clearance [2]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> gerhard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/201110.mbox/%3c1319274310.93350.yahoomail...@web27807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E >>>>>>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.irian.at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>>>>> Courses in English and German >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/11/1 Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 for the idea! >>>>>>>> I agree with Bernd about the name. For me, "incubator" is also >>>>>>>> associated with rules and legal stuff. We should encourage people to >>>>>>>> contribute, instead of scaring them away. "Sandbox" or "labs" sounds >>>>>>>> encouraging and accessible. But perhaps we should discuss/vote the >>>>>>>> name in another thread and first focus on the idea... >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Bart Kummel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 01:36, Gerhard Petracek >>>>>>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in order to check if there is a community for a new sub-project (esp. >>>>>>>>> GSoC projects for MyFaces), we discussed [1] the introduction of an >>>>>>>>> internal incubator. >>>>>>>>> We would release such projects early and e.g. after a quarter we >>>>>>>>> decide if we keep and promote a project (as a sub-project or a module >>>>>>>>> of an existing sub-project) or if we drop it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please vote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [+1] I like the idea >>>>>>>>> [0] I'm not convinced but I'm ok with it >>>>>>>>> [-1] I don't agree >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Gerhard >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >
