thx matt for the links regards, gerhard
2011/11/2 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> wrote: >> FWIW: >> >> -1 >> >> why introducing yet another level of "incubation" process ? >> I find it (very) problematic trying to be in some sort of >> "competition" w/ the Apache Incubator... >> (even if the discussed targets here are JSF specific) > > As I have attempted to point out elsewhere via email links (which > presumably went unfollowed), not only is this "problematic"; per > Incubator PMC consensus it is downright unacceptable. You simply > can't have a mini-incubator so complete that it makes sense even to > use the *name* "incubator". PLEASE read [1] for background, or skip > directly to [2] (search for "Some possible solutions") to know what IS > acceptable. There is no need for MyFaces to rehash my experiences on > Commons' behalf two-plus years ago. > > [1] http://markmail.org/message/n3t7lksceuplh45r > [2] http://markmail.org/message/r6ffmmyh6pxnn6nd > > Matt > >> >> Why not simply "moving" future (MyFaces) GSoC directly to the Apache >> Labs project ([1])?! >> For there, just start coding and releasing (alphas etc). The new >> release process is straightforward >> and not heavyweight - so (alpha) releases are cheap. >> >> -M >> >> [1] http://labs.apache.org/ >> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Bernd Bohmann >> <bernd.bohm...@atanion.com> wrote: >>> Ok, >>> >>> if there is no real difference between Apache Incubator and Apache >>> MyFaces Incubator, >>> I have to change my vote to >>> >>> -1 >>> >>> especially a have a problem with: >>> >>> All code donations from external organisations and >>> existing external projects wishing to join MyFaces enter through the >>> MyFaces-Incubator. >>> >>> This is the Apache Incubator role. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Bernd >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Gerhard Petracek >>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> hi bart, >>>> >>>> as mentioned [1] by mark it's also about ip clearance [2]. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> gerhard >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/201110.mbox/%3c1319274310.93350.yahoomail...@web27807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E >>>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html >>>> >>>> http://www.irian.at >>>> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>> Courses in English and German >>>> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/11/1 Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl> >>>>> >>>>> +1 for the idea! >>>>> I agree with Bernd about the name. For me, "incubator" is also associated >>>>> with rules and legal stuff. We should encourage people to contribute, >>>>> instead of scaring them away. "Sandbox" or "labs" sounds encouraging and >>>>> accessible. But perhaps we should discuss/vote the name in another thread >>>>> and first focus on the idea... >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Bart Kummel >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 01:36, Gerhard Petracek >>>>> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> in order to check if there is a community for a new sub-project (esp. >>>>>> GSoC projects for MyFaces), we discussed [1] the introduction of an >>>>>> internal incubator. >>>>>> We would release such projects early and e.g. after a quarter we >>>>>> decide if we keep and promote a project (as a sub-project or a module >>>>>> of an existing sub-project) or if we drop it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please vote: >>>>>> >>>>>> [+1] I like the idea >>>>>> [0] I'm not convinced but I'm ok with it >>>>>> [-1] I don't agree >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gerhard >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/d7oogfabvliwn7fg >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >