16. července 2020 9:32:59 SELČ, Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> napsal:
>Hi Jan,
>
>Nah, I still disagree: we're not to support NetBeans 8.2 (we can't do 
>that, after all). We could keep on hosting the RELEASE82 artifacts at 
>OSOUL, I think, even without requesting special permission from them.
>
>The problem would then be knowing which artifacts in the repository 
>belong to the RELEASE82 version. I have no clue on how to do that. The 
>repository holds _hundreths_ of _thousands_ of files, I don't think we 
>can backup the whole repository.
>
>Finally I think nobody is interested in this, I mean, users do not seem
>
>to be worried about this. Nobody has spoken up or requested a backup.

Hm, the last time the repo went down, there surely were complaints:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-users/202005.mbox/%3C7d9a959e-3189-cb27-0406-bb7ef467bd0d%40plattform-gmbh.de%3E

I would expect more complaints if we simply drop the repository.

Jan

>
>I imagine companies and users will have those artifacts locally cached 
>in their $HOME/.m2 directory, and that's probably good enough for them 
>to keep on building their stuff.
>
>Maybe we could suggest users to keep a backup of their $HOME/.m2 
>RELEASE82 artifacts, and use that for future builds, before migrating
>to 
>newest NetBeans versions.
>
>Kind regards,
>Antonio
>
>
>El 15/7/20 a las 22:19, Jan Lahoda escribió:
>> Hi Antonio,
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 6:35 PM antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Well I can't understand why people will complain, after all:
>>>
>>> - Oracle has been very kind in hosting the binaries for several
>years
>>> now (8.2 was released in Octobre 2016!).
>>> - We've set up a temporary solution that allowed for a smooth
>transition
>>> (i.e, the bits.netbeans.org redirection).
>>> - We've put in place a viable/better alternative (i.e., using Maven
>>> Central).
>>>
>>> Maybe we could suggest/announce users to upgrade to the latest
>(Apache)
>>> NetBeans version, or sugest them to make a backup of the repository
>if
>>> they need that for reproducible builds.
>>>
>>> That's why I'm asking through a lazy consensus thread: we all agree
>that
>>> it's not our mission to keep four-year-old, non-Apache binaries
>around,
>>> right?
>>>
>> 
>> I am not quite sure it is not our mission - I think our mission is to
>> support people using NetBeans, and I think we should at least try to
>keep
>> old things running if we can.
>> 
>> Assuming this project cannot at this time host the artifacts on the
>Apache
>> infrastructure (there were talks about it on legal-discuss, but it
>didn't
>> progress too far), I wonder if netbeans.osuosl.org could be a place
>to host
>> at least the Maven repository and at least parts of the last
>non-Apache
>> release (like the zips). Is there someone we could ask?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>>      Jan
>> 
>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 15/7/20 a las 10:37, Eric Barboni escribió:
>>>> But make this decommissioning a notice by Oracle because Apache
>NetBeans
>>> is  not in charge of the maven artifacts that are on
>>> bits.netbeans.org/maven2 and we will have lots of complains I guess.
>>>
>>>
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