That’s why we need to put an announcement together, clearly communicate it,
including directly to those people in that issue who had problems ladt
time/s.

Gj

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 13:33, Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 16. července 2020 9:32:59 SELČ, Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> napsal:
> >Hi Jan,
> >
> >Nah, I still disagree: we're not to support NetBeans 8.2 (we can't do
> >that, after all). We could keep on hosting the RELEASE82 artifacts at
> >OSOUL, I think, even without requesting special permission from them.
> >
> >The problem would then be knowing which artifacts in the repository
> >belong to the RELEASE82 version. I have no clue on how to do that. The
> >repository holds _hundreths_ of _thousands_ of files, I don't think we
> >can backup the whole repository.
> >
> >Finally I think nobody is interested in this, I mean, users do not seem
> >
> >to be worried about this. Nobody has spoken up or requested a backup.
>
> Hm, the last time the repo went down, there surely were complaints:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-users/202005.mbox/%3C7d9a959e-3189-cb27-0406-bb7ef467bd0d%40plattform-gmbh.de%3E
>
> I would expect more complaints if we simply drop the repository.
>
> Jan
>
> >
> >I imagine companies and users will have those artifacts locally cached
> >in their $HOME/.m2 directory, and that's probably good enough for them
> >to keep on building their stuff.
> >
> >Maybe we could suggest users to keep a backup of their $HOME/.m2
> >RELEASE82 artifacts, and use that for future builds, before migrating
> >to
> >newest NetBeans versions.
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >Antonio
> >
> >
> >El 15/7/20 a las 22:19, Jan Lahoda escribió:
> >> Hi Antonio,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 6:35 PM antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Well I can't understand why people will complain, after all:
> >>>
> >>> - Oracle has been very kind in hosting the binaries for several
> >years
> >>> now (8.2 was released in Octobre 2016!).
> >>> - We've set up a temporary solution that allowed for a smooth
> >transition
> >>> (i.e, the bits.netbeans.org redirection).
> >>> - We've put in place a viable/better alternative (i.e., using Maven
> >>> Central).
> >>>
> >>> Maybe we could suggest/announce users to upgrade to the latest
> >(Apache)
> >>> NetBeans version, or sugest them to make a backup of the repository
> >if
> >>> they need that for reproducible builds.
> >>>
> >>> That's why I'm asking through a lazy consensus thread: we all agree
> >that
> >>> it's not our mission to keep four-year-old, non-Apache binaries
> >around,
> >>> right?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I am not quite sure it is not our mission - I think our mission is to
> >> support people using NetBeans, and I think we should at least try to
> >keep
> >> old things running if we can.
> >>
> >> Assuming this project cannot at this time host the artifacts on the
> >Apache
> >> infrastructure (there were talks about it on legal-discuss, but it
> >didn't
> >> progress too far), I wonder if netbeans.osuosl.org could be a place
> >to host
> >> at least the Maven repository and at least parts of the last
> >non-Apache
> >> release (like the zips). Is there someone we could ask?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>      Jan
> >>
> >>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Antonio
> >>>
> >>> El 15/7/20 a las 10:37, Eric Barboni escribió:
> >>>> But make this decommissioning a notice by Oracle because Apache
> >NetBeans
> >>> is  not in charge of the maven artifacts that are on
> >>> bits.netbeans.org/maven2 and we will have lots of complains I guess.
> >>>
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