That’s why we need to put an announcement together, clearly communicate it, including directly to those people in that issue who had problems ladt time/s.
Gj On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 13:33, Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 16. července 2020 9:32:59 SELČ, Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> napsal: > >Hi Jan, > > > >Nah, I still disagree: we're not to support NetBeans 8.2 (we can't do > >that, after all). We could keep on hosting the RELEASE82 artifacts at > >OSOUL, I think, even without requesting special permission from them. > > > >The problem would then be knowing which artifacts in the repository > >belong to the RELEASE82 version. I have no clue on how to do that. The > >repository holds _hundreths_ of _thousands_ of files, I don't think we > >can backup the whole repository. > > > >Finally I think nobody is interested in this, I mean, users do not seem > > > >to be worried about this. Nobody has spoken up or requested a backup. > > Hm, the last time the repo went down, there surely were complaints: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-users/202005.mbox/%3C7d9a959e-3189-cb27-0406-bb7ef467bd0d%40plattform-gmbh.de%3E > > I would expect more complaints if we simply drop the repository. > > Jan > > > > >I imagine companies and users will have those artifacts locally cached > >in their $HOME/.m2 directory, and that's probably good enough for them > >to keep on building their stuff. > > > >Maybe we could suggest users to keep a backup of their $HOME/.m2 > >RELEASE82 artifacts, and use that for future builds, before migrating > >to > >newest NetBeans versions. > > > >Kind regards, > >Antonio > > > > > >El 15/7/20 a las 22:19, Jan Lahoda escribió: > >> Hi Antonio, > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 6:35 PM antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Well I can't understand why people will complain, after all: > >>> > >>> - Oracle has been very kind in hosting the binaries for several > >years > >>> now (8.2 was released in Octobre 2016!). > >>> - We've set up a temporary solution that allowed for a smooth > >transition > >>> (i.e, the bits.netbeans.org redirection). > >>> - We've put in place a viable/better alternative (i.e., using Maven > >>> Central). > >>> > >>> Maybe we could suggest/announce users to upgrade to the latest > >(Apache) > >>> NetBeans version, or sugest them to make a backup of the repository > >if > >>> they need that for reproducible builds. > >>> > >>> That's why I'm asking through a lazy consensus thread: we all agree > >that > >>> it's not our mission to keep four-year-old, non-Apache binaries > >around, > >>> right? > >>> > >> > >> I am not quite sure it is not our mission - I think our mission is to > >> support people using NetBeans, and I think we should at least try to > >keep > >> old things running if we can. > >> > >> Assuming this project cannot at this time host the artifacts on the > >Apache > >> infrastructure (there were talks about it on legal-discuss, but it > >didn't > >> progress too far), I wonder if netbeans.osuosl.org could be a place > >to host > >> at least the Maven repository and at least parts of the last > >non-Apache > >> release (like the zips). Is there someone we could ask? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jan > >> > >> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Antonio > >>> > >>> El 15/7/20 a las 10:37, Eric Barboni escribió: > >>>> But make this decommissioning a notice by Oracle because Apache > >NetBeans > >>> is not in charge of the maven artifacts that are on > >>> bits.netbeans.org/maven2 and we will have lots of complains I guess. > >>> > >>> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > >>> > >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > >For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > -- > Odesláno aplikací K-9 Mail ze systému Android. Omluvte prosím moji > stručnost. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >