Darrell,

> Case in point is the FreeS/WAN project.  There is a huge demand for 
> this.  I have no doubt we will get this working.  On our own this may 
> take longer then if Mitel assisted us,

We have already solved this issue.  It is part of ServiceLink, and,
having personally set up a good number of VPNs in the past, the
implementation our developers created for establishing IPSEC VPNs is
without a doubt one of the slickest and coolest implementations I have
ever seen.  We mention what you see in the server manager in the user
manual at:

  http://www.e-smith.org/docs/manual/5.0/servicelink-vpn.html

and a little bit more of general text at:

  http://www.e-smith.org/docs/manual/5.0/servicelink.html

On the administration end, there is a simple configuration form at 
the NOC where the partner chooses one ServiceLink-enabled server as
the primary server in the VPN, selects a checkbox next to each of the
other servers that are to be in the VPN... and that is it. Within a
short time (which can be manually sped up) all of the servers are linked
in a secure VPN and are able to share information between servers.
I have yet to see any tool that comes even *remotely* close to making
IPSEC VPN setup as simple as what our developers have created.

And we have customers now who are using ServiceLink to deploy IPSEC
VPNs between numbers of their offices... and it is working tremendously
well.  

But all of that development to make the solution so simple and solid did
cost a whole lot of time and money (especially as we had to develop a
separate codebase and be sure that it interacted with FreeS/WAN in ways
that are compliant with the GPL (and it does - we take the GPL *very*
seriously here - and license all of our non-ServiceLink code under the
GPL))... and running a 24x7 redundant NOC to facilitate secure key
exchange and interaction is *definitely* not cheap, so the simplicity
comes at a price - the servers have to subscribe to ServiceLink.

When they do, all works fantastically well. Simple. Easy. Secure. Reliable.
Everything that folks have come to expect from us.

Because we knew that not everyone using our product would become a 
ServiceLink subscriber, and because we want to support the open source
developer community as much as possible, we included the FreeS/WAN RPMs
with the base server product so that others can use them in other 
combinations and with other products.  For folks that do not want to
use ServiceLink, they are free to create IPSEC VPNs as I have seen folks
working on doing here.  We encourage that and I am sure many folks out
there will do all sorts of things that we can not even imagine. That is
the cool part about living in an open source world and I look forward
to seeing all that evolves.

And while I am sure some of our developers will help out when they can,
if you do not see us spending a huge amount of developer cycles helping
out with FreeS/WAN here on devinfo, it is because we have already solved
the issue with a solution that totally rocks.

My 2 cents,
Dan

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