Am Freitag, 9. März 2012, 23:59:30 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide: > Am Mittwoch, 7. März 2012, 15:29:45 schrieb Ian Clarke: > > > So what is the experience of new users? Install freenet, see automaticly > > > shipped wot+freetalk, try them, see their issues, maybe browse some > > > sites and uninstall freenet again, since things either do rarely work or > > > there is no content. A cool web-UI wont change those points, so from my > > > perspective, a different interface may be nice, but it wont solve the > > > bigger issues with freenet. > > > > So again, you think that just because a new UI won't solve every problem > > with Freenet, then we shouldn't do it? That's completely illogical. > > If it creates more problems than it solves, it is a problem.
I just saw a message on Sone, which shows one quite extreme position on Javascript, and I thought you should know about it before deciding whether to make Freenet dependant on Javascript: jacg: Achtung, rant ahead. JS, serverside scripting, cookies, web "apps", canvases, media players, clientside SQL databases, the recent brain damage of "web sockets", are all cancer and the faster they all die, the better. A big part of why I really enjoy reading Freesites is that all of this brain damage is disallowed, pointless, and/or technically impossible to implement, and thus the sites have only two things left to focus on: template and content; the latter being the only one of any importance. Web pages are documents. If you don't see how far wrong the things have gone, try to imagine yourself having to open a Word document each time you want to play minesweeper. Or opening a Word document to run an image editor inside of it. Or opening a Word document to open a web browser to go to a website that allows you to write Word documents. It's been 20 years of idiots trying to turn web pages into applications, and the result is several incompatible implementations, shitty development tools, ever-increasing abuse of user privacy, millions of developers' man-hours wasted on dealing with legacy crap, retrofitting protocols and formats to do things they were never designed to do, and so on and on. The web is a fucking frankenstein and it's getting worse with every iteration. Please keep this turd off my lawn. > Best wishes, > Arne -- Ein Würfel System - einfach saubere Regeln: - http://1w6.org
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