This is absolute madness - did no one think this system through? 

So basically we've been told by support now that we are liable for the
renewal fee ($9.85) per domain. That means all our work to date (minus
commission) means we own Tucows around $800. Great...

This is completely unacceptable. We're going to have to charge our clients
for these domains and I'm 99% sure they are going to want to get a refund on
the auction payment they made. 

As support has written to me - "While I understand on an immediate basis it
looks like a loss, you as the reseller are gaining something much more
valuable then a couple of dollars commission.  You're gaining a customer.
That opens up the possibility for upselling, renewal years and other revenue
streams based on the purchased domain."

Sorry but we're not that large to take a continual loss on this system. The
chance of these people renewing these com/net/org domains through us is very
remote. We buy them wholesale for a price they wouldn't find acceptable.
This is the reason we have sold almost none of these extensions through
Tucows for the last 5 years. If this is your plan to compensate us then you
will have to back it up and lower the domain prices to current market value.


Can someone from Tucows come online and confirm that our clients can get
their auction payments refunded/ and we can refuse these automatic charges
at day -81. 

The only way I can see us going near this system again is if you put the
minimum price back up to $21+. The way I see it, you decided to cut the
minimum price at our expense. 

Best Regards,
 
Nick 
 
CEO
e3internet
http://www.e3internet.com 
 
Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this email?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Tate
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [domains-gen] auction proceedure


I didn't even notice this. Probablly because in the past I have just been 
buying names for myself.

Now that I have active end users because of the price drop I will have to 
goto them and see if they feel obligated to pay the renewal fees that I will

be automatically charged for (and after their domain names have already been

renewed).

What if they decide they don't want to pay? I find this completely 
unacceptable and I'm sure the end users will too since it isn't spelled out 
anywhere on the site and the billing for the auction has already been 
completed. My only choice if they don't want to pay is to take 
unlock/locking away from the end user accounts and hold the domains hostage.

This is all on top of explaining it takes 100 days to get a domain name.

Tucows: Why not have the auction for the names AFTER the RGP period is over 
and be able to deliver the domain name to the end user accounts within 48 
hours of the auction close?



-Tim Tate


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Nick Wilsdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [domains-gen] auction proceedure
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:02:09 +0300

Hi Maxine,

 > There is nothing in any of the Auction help documentation, which as
you know, we as resellers can't modify, that advises the auction bidder they
are responsible for the annual renewal payment to the reseller.

That is exactly my concern. I could find nothing that indicated I would get
an invoice straight after winning/paying for the auction - that needs to be
spelled out in very large letters (or preferably take the renewal with the
auction fee*). I know our clients are going to be very surprised/angry to
hear this if this is the case.

The problem we then have is that someone may have won the auction but refuse
to pay for the renewal. What happens then? The documentation seems to show
that this renewal is taken automatically from our account at day -81?

*maybe put a config option into so we can insert our 1 year renewal price
into the system but even just taking the base rate would be ok at this
point.

Best Regards,

Nick

CEO
e3internet
http://www.e3internet.com


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