Your message just happened to be the catalyst for something I have
wanted to discuss lately.
Thanks for being the catalyst.
-RD
Rachel Foerster wrote:
>
> Wow! I didn't intend to start the religious wars all over again re
> Microsoft and others. I'm neiether a Microsoft zealot nor a basher.
> Personally, I believe that Microsoft and Bill Gates' vision has done
> more to bring standardization to the desk top than anyone else. DOS
> and then Windows (and yes, I've struggled through all versions of DOS
> and then Windows) have done more to bring computing into the reach and
> use of individuals than any other tool.
>
> My only comment about BizTalk was can it be used to create maps, etc.
> that will run under other OS's?
>
> On the other hand, it's a fact....many organizations have a mixed
> platform architecture, and thus may have a need to be able to port a
> map to a different platform. It's not necessary to start a religious
> war over this issue, just to recognize that the situation exists.
>
> Rachel
>
> The original question did not specify it had to be platform
> independent. Biztalk does not require IIS. It only runs on Windows
> 2000 Server. It is a service like IIS. Biztalk will become a part of
> Back Office similar to IIS and Exchange.
>
> I'll assume one of your "strong holds" about a mapper is platform
> independence. Platform independence is "markettechture". I am a
> Mercator expert and I have never had the need to port or develop a map
> that would run concurrently on Unix, DOS, Windows, Linux, blah, blah,
> blah. As a sidebar I would only be hindering myself as a corporation
> by
> having this hodge podge - that is if I cared about competition.
> IMHO -
> if you are one of these companies who has a hodge podge of OS' around
> then someone with Windows DNA is going to eat your supply chain's
> lunch. This is epitomized by Amazon.com over taking the Book Industry
> overnight. Their competitors can't turn on a dime because of their
> hodge podge non-distributed infrastructure.
>
> Furthermore, Microsoft is light years ahead of the crowd with their
> Windows DNA architecture, of which Biztalk and XML play a small
> integral
> part and includes Visual Studio.net, while others are still plumbing
> and
> fumbling around on the Net with Java (I personally like to code but
> not
> 50 lines to 1 - law of diminishing returns you know). Biztalk is also
> a
> client that is a COM compliant object that sits in my registry on
> Windows 9x/2000 clients. I can call Biztalk's properties and methods
> from with Internet Explorer (IE), pass XML over the wire, and not even
> open Biztalk, and I ain't paying $50,000+ bucks to do so.
> Furthermore,
> I can use Biztalk Server to send/receive/map X12 and EDIFACT. COM
> compliance is about designing your application with an API into it out
> of the box - not as an after thought.
>
> IE is THE thin client. What Larry Ellison and dumpster diving
> entourage
> are trying to do with Thin Client, Microsoft has been doing with IE
> for
> years. Besides why buy a terminal that you can't play games on?
>
> Let's have a contest: develop and Windows DNA B2B and B2C website vs.
> whatever other cruft is out there. I'll use the Microsoft suite of
> dev
> tools and we will judge it on time to market, price and performance.
>
> Hope this starts a religious discussion - I'm kind of sick of this
> sluggish IT economy, especially here in Atlanta.
>
> Thus saith the Lord Gates,
> -RD
>
> Rachel Foerster wrote:
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > I may be mistaken, but doesn't Biztalk have to run under IIS? It's
> > certainly not platform independent.
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > I would consider Biztalk. Download the beta for free at
> > http://www.microsoft.com/biztalk/.
> >
> > --
> > Richard Druckenmiller
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Mike Mueller wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings -
> > >
> > > We are in need of a tool that can map XML to a segmented-fixed
> flat
> > file format
> > > (that is, multiple records but each record can have a different
> > number of
> > > fields). We don't necessarily need an all inclusive any-to-any
> > mapper, just
> > > something that can map. The ideal product would be able to import
> a
> > DTD or
> > > schema and create a document tree from which you could map. Is
> > anyone aware of
> > > such a tool? All answers appreciated !!
> > >
> > > Mike Mueller
> > > MGIC
> > >
> > >
> >
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