On 7 November 2011 17:58, Kirk Wallace <kwall...@wallacecompany.com> wrote:

> I have an electric draw bar like this one:
> http://home.insightbb.com/~joevicar3/cheap_drawbar.htm
>
> It's not very subtle and would make short work of a 20 taper collet.

Possibly not, if it was simply operating a bolt into the CAT40
adaptor, pushing-off a Belville stack.

>>  face mounting bolts.
>> However I have not found a drawing which shows them.
>
> http://www.schaublin.ch/catalogues/PO039-042.pdf

That does seem to be a good example of one of the many documents not
showing the bolt holes, yes :-)

According to my Machineries handbook, NMTB40 has two dogs in the face,
and also 4 x 1/2" x 13 tapped holes. Mounting to those would allow you
to poke alternative drawbar arrangements down the hole (and would
preclude using the power-drawbar for fast loading and unloading the
high speed spindle.

> So let's see, 60 RPS = 3600 RPM. Common VFD's go up
> to 400 Hz to give around 24,000 RPM. That would do nicely. This would be
> a slam dunk if I didn't want the draw bar and went with ER collets,

Can you use a VFD with a BLDC?
I am pretty sure that Pete has run his BLDC drives in a 5k servo
thread, which might get you 400Hz of commutation.

> I found this:
> http://www.tormach.com/product_pcnc_acc_speeder.html
>
> I suppose a smooth belt from the main spindle to an offset idler axle
> then a belt back to an on-axis secondary spindle would work, but then
> there would be no fancy high-tech electronics involved.

I was imagining something similar, but cleverer. :-)

-- 
atp
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