On Wednesday 20 April 2016 11:36:58 Jon Elson wrote:

> On 04/20/2016 03:20 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> >> Greetings;
> >>
> >> One of the things I am noticing, when running this crippled Z drive
> >> at various speeds, is that up to about 3/4 rps at its shaft, it
> >> moves dead silently, but by 2 rps, its rattling tools off the
> >> table, exactly as if is was being full stepped, and it doesn't
> >> become at all smooth again until its moving the head at 25 ipm or
> >> more, then stalls at just under 48 ipm.
> >> ...
> >> What say you folks?  Will this truly solve it?
> >
> > I would guess resonance or step signal have to toggle between two
> > different frequencies but have no experience. An oscilloscope would
> > tell if there are problems with the step signal. I can also tell if
> > stepper driver behave as expected.
>
> You can also hook up an old PC speaker with a 150 Ohm
> resistor in series to the step signal and listen to it.  The
> ear has a great system for picking out multiple
> frequencies.  Since my (Pico Systems) stepper board is
> essentially a servo, where the computer sends a velocity,
> step pulses are counted as if they were coming from an
> encoder, and then run through the PID hal component, bad PID
> parameters can cause nasty frequency hopping at certain
> speeds.  So, I listen to it and twiddle until I get smooth
> tones that sound like turning the dial on an audio
> oscillator.  (You can also do this with Halscope.)
>
> Jon

For software stepping, halscope is neat, but the 5i25 does not expose the 
step/dir signals for halscope perusal so a real scope or better yet the 
speaker is needed for this.  And its an idea I hadn't thought of to try, 
thanks Jon.  The ear is a fantastic device for hearing odd sounds that 
aren't supposed to be there!  The eyes are overloaded trying to analyse 
a moving target.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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