On 15 September 2016 at 05:25, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com
> wrote:

> Hi Stathis,
>
>    I really like this explanation of supervenience. I only worry that we
> need a lot more detail, of how exactly "A and B are unaffected if the
> timing, order or duration of a and b are changed." works. AFAIK, this
> requirement looks a lot like mutual independence, but it clearly can not
> be. There must be a non-zero probability of transitions within the
> processes at each level of the tower, something like a 'time' at each.
>

Information about timing, order or duration of a and b that does not change
a and b cannot change A and B either. This follows from the definition of
supervenience.


>
>    That brings me to my next question: Where do we get the inequality of
> entropy when it is NOT at equilibrium for a system. Deriving an arrow of
> time is not just a matter of figuring out how to chain labels in observer
> moments, we need an actual transition from one state to another in our
> theory.
>    Does anyone here have a nice explanation of Markov Processes that they
> could point me to?
>

If there are real processes occurring in real time, this is not necessarily
relevant to the supervenient mental processes. A future mental state could
be computed in real time before a past mental state; it could have happened
to you right now, and you wouldn't know. Thus, even if there is a real
world, with real time and an arrow of time, the subjective world is
timeless.


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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