Namaskaram Kala Devi, I'll use a non TM mantra as an example!
Let's say the bija is `Shreem' for the basic TM technique. Let's say `Om Shreem Namaha' for an advanced technique. Finally let's say `Om Shreem Maha Lakshmiyei Swaha' for a more advanced technique. >From your experience, am I correct in saying that `Om Shreem Maha Lakshmiyei Swaha' would be the most powerful of all 3 meditation mantras? Namaste, Billy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "biosoundbill" <smithybill@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think that the advanced techniques in TM where additional > > > > syllables are added to the mantra are not as powerful as the basic > > > > TM technique. > > > > > > > > The reason I say this is because in the basic TM technique one is > > > > meditating twice daily with the purest, most intense form of a > > > > mantra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would disagree. The full dharani, the "chain" of mantra and it's > > bija is the most profound > > > expression of mantra. One is the seed and one is the "tree". It is > > only then that we can > > > differentiate and experience the different levels of the mantra > > (vyapini, unmana, samana, etc.) > > > consciously and under will. Failing that we never completely > > transcend the mind but instead > > > simply arrive at what appears like a thought-free state. But vrittis > > are still present at this > > > rudimentary state. This thought-free state can be quite addictive > > and people tend to get > > > stuck there because of this. It's also important that the initate > > has the dhyana-vidhi of the > > > devata as that potentializes the ability to actualize the > > mantra-shakti and communicate with > > > that energy as all-pervasive outside of meditation. > > > > Well, yes and no, that may be intellectually true but *experientially* > > unless the meditator is advanced it can have a slowing down of > > transcending per my experience! > > It's not an intellectual fact, it IS an experiential one. > > But you'd have to have a means of comparison and since this is not the type of mantra that > is given in TM, you would need to experience a different practice. Mostly you see > streamlined teachings being given out by the mass-market meditation vendors. TM > epitomizes that approach. You do not always get what you pay for; personal instruction > will always be the superior vehicle (but at one time TM might have been a good starter > practice). The way TM was instructed years ago will only serve to plumb the grosser levels > of mind but the technique is definitely not an unmana technique, i.e. one that goes truly > beyond the mind. If that was the case (that TM took you beyond the mind, etc.) you would > see people going into very deep absorptions for long periods of time. As far as I am aware, > that is not the case. If it was I'm sure they'd advertise it!!! :-) > > Kala Devi >