I was merely reporting my experience.  This experience leads me to suspect that 
consciousness is layered, but there is nothing in the experience itself that 
tells me that I'm experiencing the deepest layer. Consciousness, as Husserl 
pointed out, is always OF something.  I agree with you completely that for 
there to be any hint of awareness of anything whatsoever, there has to be a 
first distinction, which was the point of quoting my favorite mathematician.  
And yet there remains the original mystery of why and how consciousness 
conceives a desire to know itself.  The usual answer is love, but while that's 
nice, it's circular.  

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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:41:15 AM
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--- Angela Mailander <mailander111@ yahoo.com> wrote:



> I am always conscious of that "third thing."  I

> observe my mind at work.  I am aware, for example,

> that this mind is not as good as it was twenty years

> ago.  This mind does not like that fact, but that

> which observes the deterioration of my mind is

> supremely indifferent and unaffected by that

> deterioration.  So there is a reason for

> distinguishing between consciousness (the observer)

> and awareness (the mind's workings).  That is

> neither here nor there, however, as it does not tell

> me whether either one or both will survive the death

> of my body.   



One of my favorite dead horses I like to beat:



Consciousness (pure) is not an observer. Giving it

this function implies a relationship to something (the

observed). All perception is of the mind.

Consciousness has nothing to do with mind.

Consciousness is not "located" anywhere. You can't

talk about consciousness other than in negating

relative constraints placed upon it by mind (i.e., not

this, not that). Does this make any sense? If

consciousness is awake to its own consciousness while

the mind is functioning this will be clear. But if

consciousness is identified with mind then its a no go!



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