--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was merely reporting my experience. This experience leads me to suspect that consciousness is layered, but there is nothing in the experience itself that tells me that I'm experiencing the deepest layer. Consciousness, as Husserl pointed out, is always OF something. I agree with you completely that for there to be any hint of awareness of anything whatsoever, there has to be a first distinction, which was the point of quoting my favorite mathematician. And yet there remains the original mystery of why and how consciousness conceives a desire to know itself. The usual answer is love, but while that's nice, it's circular.
Angela, MMY may have answered your question here. You are probably aware of his conjecture relating to the Rishi-Devata-Chandas dynamics. Rishi pertains to the knower, devata the process of knowing, and Chandas the known. IMO, MMY is describing the process of Intelligence. It knows and desires Itself. The byproduct of this process is consciousness which translates into the creation of matter. During the process of transformation, the initial stages of the five senses, i.e. sight, hearing, tasting, feeling, smelling are manifested. In the end, all of matter can be traced and is the byproduct of the cosmological five senses. To be specific, all of these attributes are found in the faculties of human beings. In effect, this is the why and how consciousness conceives a desire to know itself. > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:41:15 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Angela Mailander <mailander111@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > I am always conscious of that "third thing." I > > > observe my mind at work. I am aware, for example, > > > that this mind is not as good as it was twenty years > > > ago. This mind does not like that fact, but that > > > which observes the deterioration of my mind is > > > supremely indifferent and unaffected by that > > > deterioration. So there is a reason for > > > distinguishing between consciousness (the observer) > > > and awareness (the mind's workings). That is > > > neither here nor there, however, as it does not tell > > > me whether either one or both will survive the death > > > of my body. > > > > One of my favorite dead horses I like to beat: > > > > Consciousness (pure) is not an observer. Giving it > > this function implies a relationship to something (the > > observed). All perception is of the mind. > > Consciousness has nothing to do with mind. > > Consciousness is not "located" anywhere. You can't > > talk about consciousness other than in negating > > relative constraints placed upon it by mind (i.e., not > > this, not that). Does this make any sense? If > > consciousness is awake to its own consciousness while > > the mind is functioning this will be clear. But if > > consciousness is identified with mind then its a no go! > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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