Yes, exactly. I am that...etc. That is my experience. I like the experience, but it's not convenient when interacting with others to actually experience them in that way. So I don't go there when I'm talking to the guy at Walmart to ask him where the stuff is that I want. On the other hand, I like getting together with a good friend who can also experience that state, though there is never much to say to each other. Still, the companionship is deep and lovely.
So, yeah, I can go there and it's great. But I think of it as just another outfit to wear, not better than any other. a --- Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela > Mailander > <mailander111@> wrote: > > > > > > One of my favorite quotes from last week is this > from > > > Sandy Ego: > > > > > > Now I will explain myself, and please see if you > can > > > discriminate between what I am saying, and what > you > > > think I am > > > saying. > > > > > > If he creates his world with his thoughts and > > > perceptions, and, moreover thinks this is what > > > everyone else should also be doing or they're > deluded, > > > then, how, in heaven's name can I know what > anyone > > > saying? I can only know what I think they're > saying. > > > > > > I'm pasting an interesting article below about a > > > scientist who recorded her experience of having > a > > > stroke and then spoke about it on TED talks > because it > > > may shed an interesting light on "higher > states." > > > > > > I've had experiences of what's been described > as > > > "Unity," I can switch into that experience at > will, > > > but, for the life of me, I can't see that it is > a > > > "higher state" than any other state I've > experienced. > > > They're just states, useful for some things, not > so > > > useful for others. And no matter how much my > > > experience is that I am the author of my > universe, my > > > body still ages. I'm a very, very long way from > the > > > time I had a job in a key club, wearing > stilettos and > > > net stockings while delivering heavy trays of > food and > > > drinks from a dirty kitchen to dirty old men. > > > > > > > Well, I don't know that there is really such a > thing as Unity > consciousness using the TM > > definition, but it is obvious that you are not and > never have been > in that state, by the TM > > definition. > > > > > > I'm not convinced that such a state exists in > anyone currently, or, > if it does, that MMY ever > > was in it, but, using the TM definition, which you > have implicitly > acknowledged, you are > > not and never have been, in said state. > > > > THAT said, I can see why you don't find the > non-existence of the > state in yourself to be of > > any value... > > > > > > Just an observation. > > > > > > Lawson > > > Until proven otherwise, I claim there is a state of > Unity > Consciousness as defined by MMY (tho as you I can > not speak to what > the above experience is) > > My first UC (type) experience was on a rounding > course - and had been > having CC state for about a week (BTW, on that > winter course there > were snow drifts inside the hallways of Howard Dorm, > and sorta warm > water a few hours a week, anyone else there at that > time?) and I took > some advice from Walter Koch who once said that if > one is 'feeling > Being' do what you can to shake it and don't try to > hold on to it. > > Anyways, I was at the cafeteria eating heavy foods > like tons of peanut > butter and yukking it up with the 'rebels' trying to > shake Being, and > someone I did not know very well walked into the > room and I witnessed > myself walking into the room - and what almost > caused to upload my > mouthful of food was that the -- I am That, You are > That -- is not a > metaphor, it is not some warm fuzzy poetic leap, but > is is a crisp > undeniable recognition - - and over the next few > days the frequency of > such recognitions increased > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
