On May 6, 2009, at 8:27 AM, BillyG. wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:

Well fortunately researchers have had access to yogis in higher states
of consciousness, particularly over the last 16 years or so. What
they've found is there are remarkable changes indeed.

I don't think most TM'ers or most meditators in any group have been able to achieve the 'breathless' state which is indicative of Samadhi.

Even if TM research merely points out TM produces states of rest comparable to sleep or better it is good and legitimate research bolstering the usefulness of TM in daily life....however, to suggest it proves higher states of consciousness without demonstrating complete cessation of the breath (and in some cases heart rate as well) is wishful thinking and TM spin.


It would be virtually impossible for them to do so without further instruction and guidance. But with authentic instruction, they'd be a ripe group for learning to do so. Perhaps it's best to think of TM folks as a large, untapped resource.

I only know a handful who went on after TM to independently deepen their studies to this level.

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