On May 6, 2009, at 8:27 AM, BillyG. wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
Well fortunately researchers have had access to yogis in higher
states
of consciousness, particularly over the last 16 years or so. What
they've found is there are remarkable changes indeed.
I don't think most TM'ers or most meditators in any group have been
able to achieve the 'breathless' state which is indicative of Samadhi.
Even if TM research merely points out TM produces states of rest
comparable to sleep or better it is good and legitimate research
bolstering the usefulness of TM in daily life....however, to
suggest it proves higher states of consciousness without
demonstrating complete cessation of the breath (and in some cases
heart rate as well) is wishful thinking and TM spin.
It would be virtually impossible for them to do so without further
instruction and guidance. But with authentic instruction, they'd be a
ripe group for learning to do so. Perhaps it's best to think of TM
folks as a large, untapped resource.
I only know a handful who went on after TM to independently deepen
their studies to this level.