Beautiful, go Zebras. Boo, disembodied enigmatic phantoms/ghosts/et's aka Vakrabuddhi..
On Oct 31, 2011, at 1:29 PM, maskedzebra <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Dear Vaj, > > Seems definitive to me. I only wish you had posted this before all the posts > I wrote today. > > I am a busy man; and I have wasted my time. But, better late than never. > > You are a total enigma to me, Vaj, so even if there is merit in all that you > say here, you say it as if disembodied from your flesh and blood. Sure, > that's an easy way out for me; but believe it or not, I resist all this > cosmic-enlightenment-Maharishi-TM thing. With a vengeance. So, if I seem to > be making myself over into another disguise which differs little from the one > when I passed myself off as enlightened, well that is kind of tragic, isn't > it. > > You are existing and writing behind a massive and impenetrable wall, Vaj; and > if I am to respond honestly and sincerely to your post here—regardless of its > validity in terms of the information and point of view—then, forgive me, I > will have to ask you to reveal yourself. Because a ghost would be more > prepossessing to me as an arbiter of the truth about myself than you, in your > present persona, can be. > > I know: I am just being paranoid here—as you have said in the past when I > have asked you to unmask yourself. Nevertheless, until you humanize yourself > I will choose to not deal straight-on with what you say here. Although, > believe me, I have pondered it very carefully. > > If in my long dialogues with Curtis there is the slightest sense of lording > it over on people; if there is anything but a human being giving it his > best—without once reverting to the authority of his state of consciousness > (which presently is extremely fallible and imperfect), then I have committed > a grave error of judgment–about myself. > > I have felt I was just a person, a thinker, a friend throughout the entire > course of my posts with Curtis. And I think anyone on the outside, who did > not know I once thought i was enlightened—if you deleted all references to > this fact—would never imagine what you say is so easily projected onto me. In > other words, Vaj, if I never did disclose that I was once in Unity > Consciousness—and there were no references to this—I defy anyone to have an > experience of me [based upon my posts] that says: Oh boy: this guy is acting > like some disgraced former guru. And he *has* an agenda, See for yourself. He > is trying to *influence* us. > > True or not true, Vaj? If you are right and I am wrong, that of course means > something. > > I shouldn't dare to show my face if I am still at the business of giving out > my darshan of perfect individuation (or whatever BS I put in that book you > refer to). > > Appreciate your dropping me a line. > > But the context of your presentation of yourself still seems to me to be the > occultation of the personality. > > That said, I do read very carefully all that you say. As have here. > > As you see I started off ironic here, but I have ended up being the real > Robin. > > At least I hope I have. This at least was my firm intention. > > Thanks for the thoughtful reflection, and implied counsel. > > Maskedzebra > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:53 PM, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > > Robin2: "Full-on aggression". Again a terrible and inaccurate > > > characterization of what Barry did when he criticized me. Tell me > > > one thing, Curtis (hey, I'm always doing this, n'est-pas?): did > > > Barry *ever* say anything by way of criticizing me which indicated > > > he was willing to answer to that criticism; that is, stand behind > > > it? Did he demonstrate in his silence he was confident about what > > > he said such that further discussion was pointless? Barry would > > > never get caught in "full-on aggression". I invite him to deal with > > > me with "full-on aggression". WTF are you doing here, Curtis? You > > > are aiding and abetting Barry in being arrested in his post- > > > Frederick Lenz fall-out, something which he does not understand, > > > but which he is, in my estimation, a victim of. Don't get it, > > > Curtis; don't get it at all. > > > > (large snippage) > > > > I think a blindspot you may be missing is that we've seen and > > experienced a good number of self-proclaimed TM "enlightened" folks > > here already, often acting out in some stereotypical fashion. I > > suspect given your own verbosity and long-windedness this simply > > highlights the pain we've already experienced here from having to > > deal with such individuals. A simple look at one of your posts is > > probably enough to set off this type of person. > > > > I mean I've read the Discovery of Grace and even I cannot bear to > > read through your often lengthy posts the whole way. It's like nails > > scraping against the akasha. Really, you've changed little from your > > early days as a hypomanic over-rounder/writer. I'm not saying this to > > be mean, but simply to point out how you may be pushing other > > people's buttons without even realizing it. > > > > You've probably heard the words "those who talk, don't know" but > > somehow Lao Tzu was silent on those who cannot STFU. ;-) > > > >
