--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > <anartaxius@> wrote:
> > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > Crop circles and aliens is difficult to believe for a number
> > > > > > of reasons. Why would an alien civilisation try to make their
> > > > > > presence known in such an ambiguous inept manner? Crop circles
> > > > > > can be made using rope, wooden stakes, and wooden planks. This
> > > > > > has been demonstrated many, many times.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't believe anybody argues crop circles can't be made
> > > > > by humans, actually.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't buy the aliens explanation either. But the more you
> > > > > read about crop circles, the less likely it seems that humans
> > > > > could have made *all* of them, given the time constraints and
> > > > > how extraordinarily elaborate many of them are.
> > > > 
> > > > Not humans. Not aliens. Hedgehogs?
> > > >  
> > > > > I have no explanation, myself. But the rope-and-stakes-and-
> > > > > planks notion doesn't really do the trick.
> > > > 
> > > > It's true. Some of them use those plastic garden rollers.
> > > 
> > > You laugh, but in between the nitwit New Agers and the hard
> > > skeptics is a layer of scientifically minded investigators
> > > who are genuinely puzzled by the weirder aspects of the
> > > phenomenon (and some of them are *very* weird).
> > > 
> > > And no, plastic garden rollers doesn't do the trick either.
> > > There really is more to it than you think, including
> > > extremely odd effects on the crop plants that aren't found
> > > in circles known to have been human-made.
> > 
> > Or someone has a battery powered microwave oven inside the 
> > garden roller. Or the army are testing sonic weapons.
> > 
> > Eliminate the impossible and whatever is left, however unlikely,
> > must be the truth.
> 
> That assumes we know unerringly the limits of the possible.

It has been more than adequately demonstrated that a bunch of
guys with planks can make even the most complicated mathematically
designed motiffs in the tiny amount of darkness you get midsummer
in England. 

The BBC even did an episode of Horizon about it. I was surprised
as I had always thought they must be using laser sights or GPS to
get that sort of accuracy but nope, it's all done with a drawing,  planks and 
real ale.

> 
> As a corollary, Occam's razor works only in an adequate
> frame of reference.

I'll be astonished if we need even that. The true art of magic
is getting people to think you are doing something complex
when you really aren't.


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