--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK. I think you're suggesting that it's something of > > an infinite regress, that one can be overshadowed by > > the desire not to be overshadowed. But that's the > > nature of the beast, part of why ignorance is so > > sticky. > > > > The point I was making to Rory, though, is that with > > me it's not a matter of having some set of idealized > > criteria for realization, i.e., what I expect > > realization to be like; rather, my single criterion > > for realization is *not* having the fundamental > > criterion for ignorance. > > Yes, that alone is sufficient to overshadow "realization" -- > denying the validity
I'm not denying anything. I'm describing what is the case for me. That's my reality. > ("perfection", is-ness, ever-presence, > whatever) of your "fundamental criterion for ignorance" -- trying > *not* to embody the fundamental criterion for ignorance. I'm not "trying" to do anything. I'm describing what is the case for me. That's my reality. In denying > ignorance (tamas), we cling to clarity (sattva), and get (as if) > stuck inside the gunas, rather than remembering they are all merely > ideas *in us* :-) > > > I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do > > know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words. > > "Being realized" isn't "like" anything Yes, it is. It's like being realized. It's *not* like being in ignorance. > -- other than (say, in that > moment) Judy writing she doesn't know what it's like to be > realized, but knows what it's like to be ignorant. :-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/