Excellent book Marek! I just put both of them on hold at the library. I am a big fan of human animal communication. (evidenced by my desire to post here!)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment and recommendation below: > > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > **snip** > > > To tell you the truth, if you want real aliens to talk to, why > > consider that famous parrot that died a few days ago. That bird did > > more to me than any cropcircle -- that bird made me believe in > animal > > minds being, as if, whole alien worlds that need traveling to, need > > understanding. Even with the astounding evidence of animal minds > that > > are very sophisticated -- apes, birds, dogs, elephants, dolphins, > > etc., the tabloids are trying to invent these whacky goofyass foci > of > > attention for the purpose of selling newspapers. To hell with, you > > know, anything real. > > > > Where's the billions put into animal research? What could we learn > > about the alien worlds of dolphin cultures that would impact our own > > cultural sensibilities? What if the dolphins are actually speaking > a > > language that is as rich as our own? What if dolphins create > artistic > > masterpieces of holographic sound that on the other side of the > world > > a group of whales pause to appreciate? These opportunities are left > > unexplored, but, hey, we'd better try to contact aliens we've never > > contacted yet to date. > > > > I say, better for us to try to understand the species we already > have > > at our doorsteps -- try to understand what's right here, right now. > > > > **snip to end** > > Edg, there's a couple of books by a guy, Eugene Linden, that my son > turned me on to, one of which is titled "The Octopus and the > Orangutan" and the other "The Parrot's Lament". Excellent material > culled from interviews and visits with both the scientists and other > hands-on/eyes-on zookeepers who work closely with animals and have > concluded that animal intelligence is actual factual and not far > distant from our own in many ways. Basically, it's all anecdotal > stuff that isn't publishable as science but to these individuals > there is no doubt that the animals they're working with are highly > sentient and lucid. > > For instance, on the simian side you've got a zoo orang who > manipulates a found wire into a lockpicking device, conceals it under > his bottom lip when not needed, and uses it to visit others at night > and to look for food that not locked up. In the cephalopod corner > there are stories of octopi who break out of their own tank during > the night and make the harrowing and frequently unsuccessful journey > across bare linoleum to another tank in which either food or a > possible mating opportunity exists. Lots more and all absolutely > great stuff and a fine read. Recommended. > > Marek >
