On 17 Feb 2009 at 0:47, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 17 Feb 2009, at 12:24 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > there was no reason that page > > layout needed to be updated. > > Yes there is, as I said. You modified note values. That always > requires the layout to be updated. That's just how Finale works.
No, there was absolutelyl positively no reason to update the layout as I didn't respace the music (and don't have automatic music spacing turned on). > > It was perfect as is, and none of my > > edits were to data that would have altered the page layout (and > > couldn't have done so, anyway, since systems were locked, with hard > > system breaks and hard page breaks). > > So in other words, turning on Automatic Update Layout with the normal > settings ("preserve system locks") would not have done anything except > prevent this bug from biting you. I've explained in another post why I don't like the way automatic update layout works -- I fear it risks file corruption. > > On 17 Feb 2009 at 0:07, Darcy James Argue wrote: > > >> That is a classic instance of a situation > >> that requires you to update layout. > > > > Why? > > So that you avoid precisely this situation. > > > This is a stupid bug. > > > Agreed. But it is a known, longstanding bug that can be avoided 100% > of the time by leaving Automatic Update Layout on. And there is no > disadvantage to doing so. >From my point of view, there *is* a possible disadvantage with a very bad downside. And I've been using Finale since 1991 and never had this happen before. > > There is no excuse for printing phantom systems on phantom pages. > > Agreed. But this is also pretty much guaranteed to happen if you have > Automatic Update Layout off and neglect to *always* manually update > layout before printing. > > IMO, Finale just flat-out does not work properly without Automatic > Update Layout turned on. (The alternative is to always manually update > the layout prior to printing, which amounts to the same thing.) When I've changed the music spacing, I *always* manually update layout. When I've made no such changes, there's absolutely no reason Finale should need the layout updated before printing. None. > Seriously. Just turn it on. Nope -- not gonna do it. -- David W. Fenton http://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale