Sobre antecedentes aquí tendes estas ligazóns: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282997 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288919
A ligazón importante é a última.. podédesvos fixar nas datas dos distintos comentarios e o tempo que pasou entre cada un deles https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368055 xabier escribiu: > Está ben que dende a administración esteades presionando. > Máis tamén creo convinte presionar dende as distintas institucións e > asociacións. > Xa fixeron a portación persoas como Camilo Regueiro, que explicou a > experiencia vivida no pasado a través de Galego 21 e Netscape, Xabier > Tobio (Cesga) tamén se posicionou (entendo unha posición individual ou > como institución). > Tamén falaron xente de Trasno, e Paco vai publicar a noticia no Glug. > > Eu creo que nos falta facer un resume (eu persolamente non teño datos > suficientes) que explique o que pasou e presentarllo os GUGL's e a > outras aosciacións. > Recoller adesións a un texto consensuados e mandarllo a Tristan e aos > medios de comunicación. > > Como podemos artellar este traballo??? > Comezamos a facer propostas? > (será moi esaxerado un wiki???) > -Proposta 1: alguén coñece a historia de como se foi creando este bucle? > Camilo xa enviou algo. Please, se alguén pode e coñece que mande algo. > Compilamono nun único mini texto explicativo. > -Propost 2: co mini texto explicativo, envialo á rolda de GUGL's > -Proposta 3: recoller adesións das asociacións e persoas implicadas. > > > Entendo que o traballo de Mancomun é importante neste caso, por > dispoñibilidade horaria, recursos, etc , máis tamén creo importante a > participación da comunidade en xeral (incluido mAncomun claro está) para > dar unha visión realista da situación: Mancomun (adminstración) > "usamolo" como un recurso que temos ao noso alcance, "pero coidado non > te equivoques Tristan, detrás da administración que está levando a voz > 'cantante' tamén está a comunidade". > > Sinto se ao mellor estou sendo un pouco pesado co tema do comunicado, > máis insisto na importancia pola nosa propia autoestima. > > > Súdos. > > > O Mér, 21-05-2008 ás 15:38 +0200, suso.baleato en xunta.es escribiu: > >> Hi Tristan: >> >> Galician Media press is asking us why Mozilla Foundation is applying a >> discriminatory policy against Galician language. We still don't have an >> explanation from the Mozilla Foundation or you yourself denying that. >> >> Also I was asking Genma Lopez -CEO at the Barcelona Digital Foundation >> event- and they officially dissociated themselves from your discriminatory >> comments on the press. They are trying to contact you in this moments. >> >> Galician Government's Press Office is working on a Press Release >> regretting the position of the Mozilla Foundation in this issue. Good >> news to the privative browsers market, no doubt. >> >> Honestly, I can't find how your silence on this issue can help to solve >> the situation. So again: if this Center can help on having Firefox 3 in >> Galician language, just ask. >> >> Yours, >> >> ----- Forwarded message from suso.baleato en xunta.es ----- >> >> From: suso.baleato en xunta.es >> To: tristan en nitot.com >> Cc: g11n en mancomun.org >> Subject: Hard comments on the press about Galician translation of Firefox 3 >> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 01:52:09 +0200 >> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) >> >> Hi Tristan: >> >> I'm writing you as the Coordinator of the Government of Galicia's Free >> Software Reference and Services Center, after receiving a bunch of angry >> messages against your hard comments on the support of Galician language >> in Firefox 3: >> >> http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internet/Mozilla/democracia/meritocracia/elpeputec/20080520elpepunet_4/Tes >> >> With your comments on the press, you are sugesting that: Galician >> localization community does not want/ it is not capable of having Firefox >> in galician language. Happily, that is not true. Unfortunately, people >> here is feeling like beeing under an attack from the Mozilla Foundation. >> >> We have a strong localization community here at Galiza. They were >> providing localized software to our own language since 1996 in both a >> volunteer and professional way. Since 2005 they even acquired the support >> of the Galician Government in their effort, managing to localize a large >> variety of projects from entire desktops like GNOME, office software like >> OpenOffice.org or more specific software like Typo3 or OpenBravo. Just as >> a show of the interest of the galician society, we registered at Mancomún >> more than 100.000 downloads and more than 30.000 distributed CD and DVD of >> free software localized to galician language in the last year. You can >> reach some of that software here: >> >> http://peme.mancomun.org/ >> >> Having Firefox localized to galician language by volunteers will be a nice >> thing, but it will not be possible if the Mozilla Foundation continues >> putting the blame on the Galician localization community... when you are >> rejecting their contributions same time. You might understand that >> attacking and damaging people is not a good way to motivate them, even >> when working with a so motivated community as the galician one. >> >> If this public Center can help to solve that disfunctional situation in >> order to have Firefox 3 available in Galician language, simply tell us >> and we will try to manage. Anyway: you might consideer that we will not do >> anything in the field of Free Software against the will of the Galician >> localization community. Attacking them will definitely not help. >> >> >> Greetings, >> >> -- >> Xesús Manuel Benítez Baleato Coordenador de mancomun.org >> >> Consellaría de Innovación e Industria Xunta de Galicia >> Praza de Europa, nº 15 - A, 6ºC 15707 Santiago de Compostela (Galiza) >> (0034) 638035310 Ext: 343820/ Fax: 881999113 <suso.baleato @ xunta.es> >> >> ----- End forwarded message ----- >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > G11n mailing list > G11n en mancomun.org > http://listas.mancomun.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n > > -- Frco. Javier Rial Rodríguez Mancomun.org - Centro de Referencia e Servizos de Software Libre de Galicia http://www.mancomun.org mancomun en mancomun.org