Efectivamente, nos bug en mozilla recóllese a historia do entorto. Se queres facer un resumo simplemente lédeo e contádeo.
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 16:13:07 Frco. Javier Rial wrote: > Sobre antecedentes aquí tendes estas ligazóns: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282997 > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288919 > > A ligazón importante é a última.. podédesvos fixar nas datas > dos distintos comentarios e o tempo que pasou entre cada un > deles > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368055 > > xabier escribiu: > > Está ben que dende a administración esteades presionando. > > Máis tamén creo convinte presionar dende as distintas institucións e > > asociacións. > > Xa fixeron a portación persoas como Camilo Regueiro, que explicou a > > experiencia vivida no pasado a través de Galego 21 e Netscape, Xabier > > Tobio (Cesga) tamén se posicionou (entendo unha posición individual ou > > como institución). > > Tamén falaron xente de Trasno, e Paco vai publicar a noticia no Glug. > > > > Eu creo que nos falta facer un resume (eu persolamente non teño datos > > suficientes) que explique o que pasou e presentarllo os GUGL's e a > > outras aosciacións. > > Recoller adesións a un texto consensuados e mandarllo a Tristan e aos > > medios de comunicación. > > > > Como podemos artellar este traballo??? > > Comezamos a facer propostas? > > (será moi esaxerado un wiki???) > > -Proposta 1: alguén coñece a historia de como se foi creando este bucle? > > Camilo xa enviou algo. Please, se alguén pode e coñece que mande algo. > > Compilamono nun único mini texto explicativo. > > -Propost 2: co mini texto explicativo, envialo á rolda de GUGL's > > -Proposta 3: recoller adesións das asociacións e persoas implicadas. > > > > > > Entendo que o traballo de Mancomun é importante neste caso, por > > dispoñibilidade horaria, recursos, etc , máis tamén creo importante a > > participación da comunidade en xeral (incluido mAncomun claro está) para > > dar unha visión realista da situación: Mancomun (adminstración) > > "usamolo" como un recurso que temos ao noso alcance, "pero coidado non > > te equivoques Tristan, detrás da administración que está levando a voz > > 'cantante' tamén está a comunidade". > > > > Sinto se ao mellor estou sendo un pouco pesado co tema do comunicado, > > máis insisto na importancia pola nosa propia autoestima. > > > > > > Súdos. > > > > O Mér, 21-05-2008 ás 15:38 +0200, suso.baleato en xunta.es escribiu: > >> Hi Tristan: > >> > >> Galician Media press is asking us why Mozilla Foundation is applying a > >> discriminatory policy against Galician language. We still don't have an > >> explanation from the Mozilla Foundation or you yourself denying that. > >> > >> Also I was asking Genma Lopez -CEO at the Barcelona Digital Foundation > >> event- and they officially dissociated themselves from your > >> discriminatory comments on the press. They are trying to contact you in > >> this moments. > >> > >> Galician Government's Press Office is working on a Press Release > >> regretting the position of the Mozilla Foundation in this issue. Good > >> news to the privative browsers market, no doubt. > >> > >> Honestly, I can't find how your silence on this issue can help to solve > >> the situation. So again: if this Center can help on having Firefox 3 in > >> Galician language, just ask. > >> > >> Yours, > >> > >> ----- Forwarded message from suso.baleato en xunta.es ----- > >> > >> From: suso.baleato en xunta.es > >> To: tristan en nitot.com > >> Cc: g11n en mancomun.org > >> Subject: Hard comments on the press about Galician translation of > >> Firefox 3 Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 01:52:09 +0200 > >> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) > >> > >> Hi Tristan: > >> > >> I'm writing you as the Coordinator of the Government of Galicia's Free > >> Software Reference and Services Center, after receiving a bunch of angry > >> messages against your hard comments on the support of Galician language > >> in Firefox 3: > >> > >> http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internet/Mozilla/democracia/meritocracia/ > >>elpeputec/20080520elpepunet_4/Tes > >> > >> With your comments on the press, you are sugesting that: Galician > >> localization community does not want/ it is not capable of having > >> Firefox in galician language. Happily, that is not true. Unfortunately, > >> people here is feeling like beeing under an attack from the Mozilla > >> Foundation. > >> > >> We have a strong localization community here at Galiza. They were > >> providing localized software to our own language since 1996 in both a > >> volunteer and professional way. Since 2005 they even acquired the > >> support of the Galician Government in their effort, managing to localize > >> a large variety of projects from entire desktops like GNOME, office > >> software like OpenOffice.org or more specific software like Typo3 or > >> OpenBravo. Just as a show of the interest of the galician society, we > >> registered at Mancomún more than 100.000 downloads and more than 30.000 > >> distributed CD and DVD of free software localized to galician language > >> in the last year. You can reach some of that software here: > >> > >> http://peme.mancomun.org/ > >> > >> Having Firefox localized to galician language by volunteers will be a > >> nice thing, but it will not be possible if the Mozilla Foundation > >> continues putting the blame on the Galician localization community... > >> when you are rejecting their contributions same time. You might > >> understand that attacking and damaging people is not a good way to > >> motivate them, even when working with a so motivated community as the > >> galician one. > >> > >> If this public Center can help to solve that disfunctional situation in > >> order to have Firefox 3 available in Galician language, simply tell us > >> and we will try to manage. Anyway: you might consideer that we will not > >> do anything in the field of Free Software against the will of the > >> Galician localization community. Attacking them will definitely not > >> help. > >> > >> > >> Greetings, > >> > >> -- > >> Xesús Manuel Benítez Baleato Coordenador de mancomun.org > >> Consellaría de Innovación e Industria Xunta de Galicia > >> Praza de Europa, nº 15 - A, 6ºC 15707 Santiago de Compostela (Galiza) > >> (0034) 638035310 Ext: 343820/ Fax: 881999113 <suso.baleato @ xunta.es> > >> > >> ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > G11n mailing list > > G11n en mancomun.org > > http://listas.mancomun.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
