On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > wrote: > > ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering > > PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?... > > How is that different from the status quo where a podling with active > mentors can have their releases +1ed by their mentors, requiring > minimal interaction with the IPMC? > In spirit it may not be very different, but in practice it is the polar opposite. As someone who has worked through the incubation of a few projects both as an initial committer as well as a mentor, I feel that the biggest weakness of the current Incubator is it's very strength of being all inclusive of different interpretations/understandings of the goals of incubation. With every IPMC member having their own close-to-heart issues and inclinations, along with their good intentions, I don't think we are doing very much to help the podlings understand the principals of Apache Way or learn self-governance that works best for their communities. Instead, we often end up prescribing things which go beyond the charter of the Incubator, just to establish a sense of comfort in ensuring we have met our responsibilities. Therefore, I too favor the idea of a smaller, well-defined, tactical IPMC that: a) establishes a clear objective criteria for growth and graduation including the necessary processes and policies, b) oversees the execution of these processes and policies via measurable means, and, c) has the final say in the graduation of the podling ...will be a big step in the right direction. This does look more like the way our board is organized. Arguably, this IPMC could still enlist the help of member/mentors but will be doing so without granting the decision making privileges to them. Regards, Arvind Prabhakar > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
