Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > Excuse the phrasing I was attempting to be concise while getting the > > following point across: I see this project as potentially being of > > great benefit to both Jakarta developers and users. By "business sense" > > I mean to say that greater collaboration would make it possible for > > developers to select a Apache-based solution where they might presently > > have to use proprietary technologies. This could expand the user base > > for the projects I mentioned as well as some of the xml.apache.org > > projects. > > Actually, I personally think that your project is contrary to ASF principles > in that it allows/encourages people to use proprietary closed source M$ > products. Of course ignoring M$ doesn't make it go away, so I'm sure that > some people would like to use your product...
Exactly, ignoring M$ doesn't make it go away. I would say the opposite: there are tons of companies that base their document systems on M$ software and would like to move to a more open world but they simply can't afford loosing the legacy data, so their managers decide to stick with M$ stuff. I would say that an exporting tool would rather do the opposite than encourage people to use M$ software, would encourage much more those who already use it to get away from it. > > Yes I did. The guidelines lay out how to propose/approve a project, > > they do not seem to preclude proposing that members/commiters look at > > the project, comment and consider a possibly supporting a proposal. > > here is the paragraph... > > It is required that at least 2 active developers be actively working on the > project. We have that. > According to the unratified proposal guidelines, it is preferred > but not required that at least one PMC member be a Committer to a new > subproject. Think of this as being similar to bringing a new baby into a > household. You want to be sure that it will be supported by its parents. I'm not part of the Jakarta PMC (even if I've been) but I am an ASF member, which is even a higher status community-wise. > My personal PMC vote is strongly in favor of having a PMC member be a > committer. While this isn't a requirement from the PMC, it is a requirement > of my personal PMC vote. Please, explain why you think my community sponsoring wouldn't be enough as a warranty for your vote. -- Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Friedrich Nietzsche -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>